What's better: A turbo or supercharger? Vote!

Post by **Burtonboarder950** » Wed May 21, 2008 2:55 pm

Not only don't i know which is better, I don't know the difference. So all you car fanatics out there, help me out! Just for 08Altima35....if you choose to vote please state why...jus a reason to your choice ;] thanks

Thanks, the newbie

Modified by Burtonboarder950 at 9:12 PM 5/21/2008
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Post by **Canadian Coupe** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:00 pm

I vote Supercharger.

Post by **Rolling Estonian** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:01 pm

Both force air into the intake. Superchargers use a belt or gears attached to the crankshaft for power. Turbos use exhaust gas to power a tubine.

Post by **Mr. Music** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:09 pm

Superchargers are generally considered a "safer" way of making power than a turbo. Most turbo setups generally produce more power, or are capable of producing more power than superchargers, which is mainly why superchargers are "safer" to run. A turbo is run by exhaust gases which spin a turbine to compress the air, and superchargers are run by the fan belt, spinning a pulley which spins some sort of screws to compress the air. While it may not be the most intricate explanation, I hope it helps. EDIT: geez, you people type fast...

Post by **johnny_d** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:09 pm

Turbo? we'll let Mcheddadi answer your question .... or maybe he won't cuz you called him a sm@rt @$$ for trying to help ........

Post by **Burtonboarder950** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:19 pm

johnny_d wrote:Turbo? we'll let Mcheddadi answer your question .... or maybe he won't cuz you called him a sm@rt @$$ for trying to help ........

haha that was a good one, i respect that comment. yea i read the response to my question round 2 after comin home drunk from a party and didn't feel like gettin called names so i flipped....oh well sh*t happens

Post by **Canadian Coupe** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:21 pm

I'm the only one that likes the supercharger.

Post by **08altima35** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:28 pm

one word - turbo!

also, not to bust your balls, but if you don't undestand what either a turbo' or supercharger do, why don't you do some research on both instead of posting a poll. a simple vote of what people like better won't help you understand the function of either one.

Post by **Canadian Coupe** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:29 pm

That's actually 3 words.

Post by **08altima35** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:33 pm

Canadian Coupe wrote:That's actually 3 words.

maybe a equal sign would have helped you out better with that one C. Coupe

Post by **adidas2go** » Wed May 21, 2008 3:45 pm

Eh, I have a fondness for superchargers, they just tend to take well with v6's and v8's. However, for traditional purposes, turbos are profoundly more popular with the Asian market. If I had 2 systems sitting on a table, 1 being a s/c and the others being a t/c, I would pick the turbo system

Post by **08altima35** » Wed May 21, 2008 5:48 pm

instead of just voting i thinking everyone who has voted should state why. this already looks like a meaningless thread, but i'm just curious as to what people opinions are that back their votes.

Post by **AkAd3MiKs** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:20 pm

adidas2go wrote:However, for traditional purposes, turbos are profoundly more popular with the Asian market.

Anyway, I always loved turbo and still do but since I have an auto now, Im gonna go with a supercharger for my car. So yea, Im not voting.

Post by **spockrock** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:55 pm

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm

I vote neither, I vote twin turbo..... now where is that turbo emoticon.

Post by **Canadian Coupe** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:57 pm

Twin superchargers!!!

Post by **Burtonboarder950** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:58 pm

spockrock wrote:http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm

I vote neither, I vote twin turbo..... now where is that turbo emoticon.

would a twin turbo really work on an a/c? that would be heavy on my wallet =/ thanks for the link btw

Post by **spockrock** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:08 pm

Canadian Coupe wrote:Twin superchargers!!!

yessssss...... http://www.autoblog.com/2006/0...-f430/

but the purpose of twin turbos originally was to reduce turbo lag...... but now its really to increase the output. BTW the bugatti veyron has a quad turbo setup attached to its 8.0L W16 engine ....

Post by **CDUB 42** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:14 pm

I vote turbo. Ive never driven a s/c car but my last car was turbo. And just the feeling of the pull it gives you is insane. Its like riding a rollercoaster. You start off slow because of lag and it suddenly just hits boost. Its an amazing feeling.

Post by **joe21** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:45 pm

I'm a fan of the supercharger. Vortech's S/C for the 350Z boosts it up to an extra 140 horses. if they could make one for the AC, I would be all over it. The only downfall it that it's over $6000.

Are turbos that expensive?

Blake, any word on how much yours might be for the public after it's all done.

I also think it's all on what comes out first. I would rather have a turbo now than a supercharger a year from now.

Post by **rjdmmfl1** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:53 pm

AkAd3MiKs wrote:

Anyway, I always loved turbo and still do but since I have an auto now, Im gonna go with a supercharger for my car. So yea, Im not voting.

i think he meant Japanese cars, but I could be wrong... oh yeah, I vote supercharger

Post by **adidas2go** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:15 pm

joe21 wrote:Blake, any word on how much yours might be for the public after it's all done.

I'm not sure, but I think were looking around the 5k range.

rjdmmfl1 wrote:
i think he meant Japanese cars

Absolutely meant Japanese cars. Asian market was more politically correct, or so I thought

Post by **packerjd04** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:30 pm

I loveeeee the scream of a supercharger, but i'd take either one hah

Post by **datsun2401972** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:05 pm

Definitely Turbo.

Twin screw superchargers create alot of cylinder pressure at low rpms. Although this is good for super low end torque, it is not good for engine durability.

Centrifugal superchargers are similar to turbochargers, minus the whole turbine(hot side) on the turbo. Of course these are belt driven with gear reduction. The reason centrifugal superchargers aren't better than turbos: the housing and impeller designs are usually a decade behind turbos . So you basically get the same parasitic drag on the crankshaft as you would with a twin screw style supercharger, but with much more "lag" than a turbo of the same size. And technically it's not lag, I believe it's called the boost threshold.

Why I think turbo's are so much better: many, many different sizes of turbos to fit your specific need, no parasitic drag on the crankshaft, much newer technology used in design...

Bad part about turbos: usually more fab skills needed, exhaust gas reversion in the cylinder(from backpressure in ex mani), and if you want REALLY big power, you have to wait for enough exhaust gas velocity to spool the turbo to the desired uber boost pressure.

Many more specifics about the differences are there, those are just the main ones that come to mind.

Post by **datsun2401972** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:21 pm

spockrock wrote:but the purpose of twin turbos originally was to reduce turbo lag...... but now its really to increase the output. BTW the bugatti veyron has a quad turbo setup attached to its 8.0L W16 engine ....

Alot of people forget that another advantage to twin turbos is cutting the thermal load on the turbocharger in half. Also a "V" designed engine tends to be alot easier to twin turbo than single. Of course there's gonna be more weight to a twin setup(pipes, turbo, etc..).

I'd like to see a comparo between one monster turbo and a twin setup at the same boost pressure. And try to keep all the efficiencies as close as possible. Will the single have more high end hp? The twin have more torque?

I think it's funny watching all these turbo mustang guys at the drags not able to spool up their "106mm" turbo at the lights. They spend who knows how many seconds prestaged, superheating their tranny fluid, trying to spool up their massive single turbo....just to break loose half track and having to shut it down. I think a twin turbo lsx s13, caged, slicked, and autoboxed would be a good formula to school those guys...iono...

Post by **08Coupe** » Thu May 22, 2008 12:38 am

Supercharger's provide more low end power and less lag, in a daily driver this is most important. I have driven whipple Cobras, Maggie vettes, Maggie and a APS twin turbo GTO's,3 modified STI's, and a EVO9and will take a supercharger any day...

Post by **PHENOMenalVinyl** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:47 am

i like the sound the turbo has in a car more than a supercharger bc sometimes u can hear the turbo

Post by **pcpower** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:49 am

guys, gals, are we forgetting the # 1 reason why turbochargers are the best.........? blow-off valves!!! there's nothing else like that hiss of air (zzzzzzssssiiiip) every time you hit the sweet spot and switch gears, it makes you feel like a total bad-a$$ with a sweet ride.

ya I know, kind of superficial, but to each his own!

Post by **Canadian Coupe** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:33 am

pcpower wrote:guys, gals, are we forgetting the # 1 reason why turbochargers are the best.........? blow-off valves!!! there's nothing else like that hiss of air (zzzzzzssssiiiip) every time you hit the sweet spot and switch gears, it makes you feel like a total bad-a$$ with a sweet ride.

ya I know, kind of superficial, but to each his own!

The supercharger has a sweet 'scream' as someone already mentioned.

Post by **heeroguy** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:58 am

id chose a supercharger,

love being able to have a very predictable power band and low end power, plus being the coupes pretty ballsy already i dont really want 500 WHP 350-400 would be bad *** though.

nothing wrong with either setup just know what you want from it,

2 different means of power and 2 different ways of driving.

Post by **heeroguy** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:59 am

pcpower wrote:guys, gals, are we forgetting the # 1 reason why turbochargers are the best.........? blow-off valves!!! there's nothing else like that hiss of air (zzzzzzssssiiiip) every time you hit the sweet spot and switch gears, it makes you feel like a total bad-a$$ with a sweet ride.

ya I know, kind of superficial, but to each his own!

srt-4's ruined blow off valves for me,

everytime i hear one get excited and turn around and just frown

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