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I just need to put the engine back together and install the VLSD and im done. I know the oil lines are not routed pretty, but it'll get the job done. What do you guys think?









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I read all the way to the end of this and went HEY! Damn it... No respect, no respect! woowoowoowoowoop nyuk nyuk nyuk.

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you know i got mad respect for ya Tim haha

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you should do something about that cancer before you put everything back together. wirebrush, naval jelly, ect.....

did you put a t-stat in the oil cooler lines?

looks awesome so far.

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pretty cool bro

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cancer on the back of the seat or under the hood? tell me exactly where u want it gone, and it most likely can be done

and yes, there is a T-Stat in that nice shiny oil filter adapter from Greddy

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looks like there is alot of rust where on the battery tray.and you could probably just buff out the seat.i got a new top section of the rear seat a few months ago with no rust and in perfect condition for 20 buck.the only reason i replaced it is because my top seats release loop broke.

sorry for the random babbling

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its getting very close, and im getting very anxious




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painting that cam back plate makes it look 1000 percent better.

suprized you didnt fresh up or go adjustable w/ the cam gears.

lookin good

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non painting of the cam gear backing plate was done haha

after breaking the exhaust cam, i thought of going adjustable and w/ Tomei cams, but i got a deal from a good guy on here so im happy. Plus that credit card bill would've been outstanding!!
Modified by sjbsuperman1425 at 12:45 PM 2/25/2010

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well here it is. busted a** all night last night until 3am getting it together. Hopefully nothing leaks and everything is good after the first start/warm up. I got teflon tape on all the oil cooler fittings and are tightened down good. The only things left to do are add coolant, oil, install fan thermostat, alternator belt, exhaust to transmission bracket, set the boost controller and reconnect the battery. Here is a before and after shot:

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You forgot the hood, dumbazz.

LOL, I'm JP. It looks great. I like that you implemented 2 catch cans. You're the first person I've seen do that. You'll be happy you did. I'm interested to see which one fills up faster.

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well had it running, had lifter tick that went away. fixed a few small leaks, then the head gasket gave out after accidentally hitting the gas with my foot while trying to move things around in the car...

so basically im doing everything over again! new head, intake, and exhaust gaskets will be here Friday and it'll be running by the following Tuesday for sure. NO MISTAKES THIS TIME.

btw, oil cooler/lines had no leaks FYI. and yea i figured i mind as well do the dual catch can setup. After having the head cleaned and cleaning the manifolds, i didn't want more gunk in there from blowby.

Stay tuned for a video in the coming weeks..

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Why did the HG give up just from you hitting the gas?

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it idled for 10 min. i hit the gas and it went to abt 6k. after that there was coolant on the ground from the back of the head and alot of white smoke.. dont know if the ARP bolts came loose or if the head gasket just gave out, i still have to tear it back down.

but it ran good before/after the head gasket started leaking aside from the lifter tick.

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Never understood how you guys' engines managed to leak after going through so much much effort to do it right so it doesn't leak. I actually just put an engine I refreshened back in my 240 and will be anxious to see if I finally experience a headgasket leak using a NISMO 1.2mm headgasket with no deck-work done. Anyways, I'm happy you got your lump together, but at the same time, I feel a bit bad because you have to take off the head again. Good luck and I hope it was just a faulty headgasket.

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love that you got rid of the electrical tape ghettoness. even the skid marks that now replace it look a million times better

sucks abt the head gasket. did you get it decked?

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hell yea Gabby im loving the new cold pipe lol but i got the head resurfaced, but not the block. i just cleaned it up with a razor blade and stuff.

and i know Dee, im kicking myself. I put the ARP's in and did everything by the book. The only thing i didn't do was after it warmed up, i did not turn it off, let it cool down, and re-check the torque on them. Im not sure if the head gasket didn't seat or if it was the ARPs or what it was, but it'll be done with no mistakes this next time.

its crazy because i JUST awoke from a dream where the block was gouged, the bearings were shot, and it was just junk lol. I know thats not the case tho, as after it stared leaking, it sounded and ran way better than it did before it started leaking lol

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i think what happened is that the intake side far back head bolt (the ***hole bolt) didnt' get the proper torque. I ground down the socket i bought but it was still hard to get out today when i checked the torque on it..

Good news, head is almost off and there is no coolant in the oil or in the cylinders im going to grind down the socket some more today. This time I'm gonna let it warm up and cool down twice before doing anything. Plus that'll give me time to mess with the EBC and get that set up.

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alright i got the head back off. head gasket was NOT blown out, but it didn't look like it was seated. So I'm guessing the rev mis-hap is the culprit. but now i got a few questions..

1). when removing ARP head bolts, did anyone ever have the studs come up with them? this happened to me on a few of them and im just wondering if i should remove all of them, re-grease them, and install again.

2). this second time around, should i do the three step torque sequence on the ARP head studs? ( torque in the steps, loosen, torque in three steps, loosen, torque )

3). the second time around, should i do the warm-up, cool down, and recheck the torque?

4). how long should i wait for the gasket to seat? I plan on waiting awhile before even getting close to the gas pedal. I'll play with my EBC or something.

5). anybody ever use Summit hose end fittings on their oil lines? I read something in the RB forum abt some guys fittings giving out, but im thinking user error..

thanks guys/gal. I'm pretty excited to start drifting again and just miss the boost soooo much. I still have a VLSD to put in and this 95 Grand Am I4 is slow as s***..


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sjbsuperman1425 wrote:...1). when removing ARP head bolts, did anyone ever have the studs come up with them? this happened to me on a few of them and im just wondering if i should remove all of them, re-grease them, and install again.

2). this second time around, should i do the three step torque sequence on the ARP head studs? ( torque in the steps, loosen, torque in three steps, loosen, torque )

3). the second time around, should i do the warm-up, cool down, and recheck the torque?

4). how long should i wait for the gasket to seat? I plan on waiting awhile before even getting close to the gas pedal. I'll play with my EBC or something.

5). anybody ever use Summit hose end fittings on their oil lines? I read something in the RB forum abt some guys fittings giving out, but im thinking user error..
1-No. If the studs came up out of the block, you didn't get them down in all the way or something. They don't need to be torqued down or anything, but I did use an allen key and snug them up before I put everything together.

2-The tighten,loosen,tighten isn't needed anymore. Just the first time they're installed.

3-Yes. Anytime you pull the head, you'll need to re-torque after cool down. Also your socket CAN NOT touch the sides of the head AT ALL if you expect to torque the studs to the proper amount. Any contact will decrease the amount of torque actually applied to the head and will cause leaks or warpage.

4- Get the head on, torque the studs (no contact with the socket and the head!) and put eveything together. Start the car and let it idle until it gets to NOT and then allow it to run for another 10 min. Turn off the car and let it cool COMPLETELY. Remove the valve covers, and re-torque the nuts on the head studs. You don't need to remove the cams, you can do it with them installed if you're careful.

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yea i snugged them down nice and tight with an allen key..its alright i'll just snug them tight again.

i just recently removed more material off my socket, but im getting weary of making the walls to think and having it break during torquing. I still get a tad bit of rubbing when i put it in the head, so i'll go grind it down a bit more.

so probably about 20-30 mins. of letting it idle, a couple hours of cool down, and then a retorque. thanks for clearing some things up for me. You're such a good guy Ryan

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IDK about the good guy thing, but I'll take a compliment, true or not, when I can get one, LOL. Thanks and G/L.

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not blown..just didn't seat. but dont deny, my hello kitty shifter toy is pretty baller


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Whats it like not having a job and wokring on your car all day? Not hatin' just f***in real jealous

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Ca_Silvia wrote:Whats it like not having a job and wokring on your car all day? Not hatin' just f***in real jealous
dude it sucks d!ck! i'd much rather be working so i can save up for more s*** for the car. i do have classes at the local community college, and thats my main source of income...that an the $1,000 student loan i took out to help pay for the EBC, VLSD, and stuff..

BTW - Post 1800! lol

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so...are the orange spots were the HG didnt sit right...

yes newbie question...i know

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LOL, I do like the hello kitty shifter toy.

If the HG had seated, the gunmetal colored part of the gasket would have stuck to the head and block when it was removed.

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umm...im confuzled o_O

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the HG started to seat, but never go to complete the task. Damn advance auto for a week long wait on the HG! but thursday i get my new Greddy counterweight shift knob..so that's a good prelude to the weekend lol


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