S13 Front Strut / Firewall Brace

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How much for one of these??


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rotorimp wrote:To order via PayPal - [email protected] $150 shipped.

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rotorimp
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Datsun2401972--Your bar is in the mail.

We might be able to do a one off--would you want it weld in or bolt in?

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hmm, bolt on for the strut mounts.

If there was gonna be some kind of crossbrace to the strut tower sidewall or the bottom of the trunk you could simply put a flange with no holes and I could weld it or drill it if I wanted.

But really, I don't wanna trouble you too much for the "one off" thing....you just need to mass produce a rear bar too lol!

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Damn... i just bought dc sports front and rear strut bars They are actually IN THE MAIL... lol.

How do these compare to dc sports strut bars front and rear? Having two more points i guess would be better but hey.. ah well sigh... Apparently the dc sports ones are 7lbs each if anyone cares to know...

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Sorry to here that--We are going to make a heat shield and brace for the master cylinder.

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rotorimp wrote:Sorry to here that--We are going to make a heat shield and brace for the master cylinder.
How much! I was going to buy the Megan shield in the next few weeks (I have jury duty starting next week, seriously cutting into my budget but a great civic duty)

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Recieved my bar today!!!

Looks awesome, thanks for a great buy!

Let me know about the heat sheild and MC brace(will it work for those with the z32 brake master cylinder?).

Keep me informed about a rear bar too please!!!

lol, I spent $250 on a welding machine so I could do this for myself..but at this price for the quality I might as well buy it already done.

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@RotorPimp / Jason,

Will this fit an S13 Coupe + R33 Xmember + NISMO mounts + RB25?

Yeah, Odd question :-\ I'm currently using the stock IM so clearances are tight I plan on getting a different IM "soon" but that is still a ways off :-\ I am already planning on shimming my hood for clearance, so that should not be an issue. Currently using the stock hood sans skeleton.

I *think* the Cusco STB will fit -- a friend has it and I can test, if that helps. I have been looking for a better solution for a while. Thanks!

*edit*Also, how much for a MC heat shield?

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since you don't need to go behind the firewall/in front of the dash, i'm assuming you use screws to secure it to the firewall? or can you place nuts there with access from the vents?

also, is there adequate clearance should i need to fiddle with/replace the bmc or cmc? i can't tell very well from the pics.

i will defintely put an order in if i like the answers i get.

thanks.

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We designed this to be very user friendly and is no way permanent.

L0nestar--I have a rb25 (I made my own mounts) and i can put the motor in with the bar still installed!!! the bar runs as close to the firewall with out getting into the brake lines as possible. you should have no problem with the R33 cross-member

unwed_transient--I use grade 8 nuts and bolts combo very easily accessed after you take up the plastic shield. If I was going to remove the master cylinder/brake booster from the car I would take off the bar first. You can get to all of the fluids with the bar attached.

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sounds good.

i will send funds today.

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Got my bar in today. Love the beefiness of this thing.

I'm running into a problem where the bar is hitting the top of my ABS actuator thing, specifically the frontward bleeder screw. I'm thinking i'm going to have to modify the actuator bracket to drop it about 1.5 or so. Jason if you have any tips i'm all ears. If i work out something with my bracket i'll give you guys directions on what i did.

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Yay, no abs!!!

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datsun2401972 wrote:Yay, no abs!!!
We never tested it on a ABS car. Can you send me a close up picture of the problem. We will get it solved--even if I have to weld up a new bar!!!!!!

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Jason... hope you don't mind if i just post the pictures up here.

From the front.

It's just hitting the top of the bleeder valve here.

here you can see how close it is to the top of the actuator

and here's a slightly wider shot of the same area

more from the top side


Modified by krazydriver at 7:33 AM 9/6/2007

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ABS FTL!! sorry :-\ I'm sure Jason will take care of ya! Speaking of.. What is the coating? black wrinkle finish? Just wondering...

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yeah it's a black wrinkle powder coat.

goddamn i hate abs..


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i just bought some wheels... so i will put off the brace until next month.

what does the production run look like for this?

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krazydriver wrote:yeah it's a black wrinkle powder coat.

damn i hate abs..
At least on our S13's. That actuator is so freaking huge! I love the fact that my 240 is completely base no pw or dl or sunroof or spoiler or rear wiper or ABS!

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Krazydriver----Well Hell Looks like we have 2 options. You have to lose the abs or I can give you a refund. That thing is more in the way than I thought. I can not modify it enough without making it look goofy.

ABS FTLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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I don't really want to ditch the ABS but i might.

I was looking at it some more last night.. the way the actuator bracket is i think i should be able to mod it like this.apologies for the crappy MS paint picture.

So jason give me a couple days and i'll get back to you.

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I believe I have seen ABS relocated (gently) on an S14.

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homeslicej2 wrote: At least on our S13's. That actuator is so freaking huge! I love the fact that my 240 is completely base no pw or dl or sunroof or spoiler or rear wiper or ABS!
omg so lucky... I wana cut my sunroof and weld in 22 gauge sheel metal haha (22 gauge is what the car's metalwork is i think anyways).

I have no ABS, no AC, no cruise control (cause i removed it) and no hicas (cause i removed it), i want to remove heater system, sunroof, antenna, and i dont know what else is there haha... i have pw windows :-/

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Yeah, I kinda lucked out with the lack of options. I like the bare bones cars. Last two vehicles I owned how the window regulators go out and windows didn't work. I have no hicas or cruise either. I do have rust through in the spare tire well though bc previous owner left the jack to slide around in there and the lights were leaking idiot. It's right by one of the gas tank mounting holes too!

krazydriver: GL with trying to drop the ABS actuator. Don't mess it up though. If you can do it take lots of pics to show everyone how it went

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alright i had about an hour to work on this today so here's what i've gotten so far.

Unbolt the wiper motor and remove the nuts holding the abs actuator to the bracket. Obviously unbolt the bracket/relay bracket/wire connections. Holding the wiper motor out of the way you can fairly easily pull the abs actuator up and get this.

Next part was a little harder take some time and work the abs bracket around. You have to unbolt the lower bracket holding the fuel lines and the bracket holding the fuel filter. That way you can get the lower end of the bracket up and over the fuel lines. Once that was done i was trying to get it to slide down between the strut/bucket area and the engine but it just wouldn't fit. So i took the dremel and a cut-off wheel and took off the top tabs on the right side of the bracket as seen here.^^ i have nasty hairy arms!!

Then i just pushed the abs actuator back down and saw where everything laid out and now it fits like this.

for some reason my weekends are usually busier then the week. So if i manage to get measurements it will probably be monday night before i'll have time to reweld the abs bracket so it holds the actuator properly.

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Looks like we are changing your name to MASTER FABRICATOR!!

Nice work and Good write up!!

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Nice!

Interesting way of moving the ABS unit krazydriver! Props!

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never seen a s13 with abs, lucky!

but yeah that was a good idea, I probably woudl have ditched the bar myself

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^^ loveless are abs S13's really that rare??

bracket has been cut and rewelded and everything bolted in. Tomorrow i gotta slot the brackets a little to allow some adjustment so they bolt in and out easier.

I gotta sleep now but i should have the rest of the pics on how i modded the bracket up by tomorrow night.


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