**Remote Starters In Time For Winter**

[Broadfield]

The push button Nissans are a very time consuming install compared to a standard keyed ignition. I'm sure the OEM security on that vehicle basically only covers door, trunk and hood trigger. Whereas the Viper will cover those features, along with built in shock sensor. You can then add glass break sensor, tilt sensor, proximity sensor, battery backup, ultrasonic sensor etc. So you have a lot more options for added protection. Like you said though, if you were to unlock the door with the button on the handle, it will not disarm the Viper. So you will have to decide how important that is to you. The Viper 5901 and 5902 are awesome units though.

I know nothing about programming the IKeys. I would be surprised if it could be done by someone besides the dealer though. Did you search on this site for info?

[googlybear]

The push button Nissans are a very time consuming install compared to a standard keyed ignition. I'm sure the OEM security on that vehicle basically only covers door, trunk and hood trigger. Whereas the Viper will cover those features, along with built in shock sensor. You can then add glass break sensor, tilt sensor, proximity sensor, battery backup, ultrasonic sensor etc. So you have a lot more options for added protection. Like you said though, if you were to unlock the door with the button on the handle, it will not disarm the Viper. So you will have to decide how important that is to you. The Viper 5901 and 5902 are awesome units though.

I know nothing about programming the IKeys. I would be surprised if it could be done by someone besides the dealer though. Did you search on this site for info?

I kind of like button on the handle. Keeping the keys in the pocket is just convenient. Plus I don't think I will put anything aftermarket in it, since it is already fully loaded. If anything, I will put subs in. So I guess my decision is to just get the car starter. So do you think $350 installed is a good price, or is that steep?

Everywhere I have searched, they say go to the dealer. I am sure there has to be a way to do it. Maybe I need to make friends with someone who works in the Nissan Parts Department....lol You know what, I might just try to get a part time job there. They probably couldn;t pay me enough though.

Thanks for your input Toby!

[Broadfield]

$350 installed for what? What brand, model?

[googlybear]

$350 installed for what? What brand, model?

Not quite sure of the brand. The dealer showed me the remote. It looks like this...

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[googlybear]

Did some searching and it might be an Audiovox Prestige. It's on Amazon for like $62. I am guessing that is a steep price to get it installed for $350.

[Broadfield]

That's a cheap Audiovox Pursuit..... I actually use to install those for dealers. That's actually a pretty fair price installed though. Because I used to do those for $249 installed...... and I charge $100 extra for the push button Nissans. I would ask them how much if you brought your own remote starter. Because then you could do the Responder One which will be 10x the system that Audiovox is. And make sure you tell them it's a remote start only just like the one they are putting in. Also, does the $350 include everything?...... parts, the unit, the interface and labor? Also, with their install/interface, how do you do key takeover after remote starting. Because some people install them so that the vehicle shuts down when you open the door, then you have to restart it once you get in. I install them so you simply get in and push the button twice and drive away.

The other thing you have to remember is that most dealers don't actually do the install. They farm it out and bring it to people like me. Because like I said, that remote is not a Nissan part. I do all of the dealers in town.

[Broadfield]

Did some searching and it might be an Audiovox Prestige. It's on Amazon for like $62. I am guessing that is a steep price to get it installed for $350.

Well yeah, but they have to make a profit on it. It's also going to take a $100 interface and several hours of labor. $350 is a fair price on that vehicle as long as $350 includes EVERYTHING except tax.

[googlybear]

Cool. I got a quote from a guy in town that will do it for $279 for everything except tax. He also said that I can use my IntelliKey as the remote, I just have to hit lock twice. He said the only downside is the distance. The range of the IntelliKey is not as far as an aftermarket one. What do you think? Is it worth it?

Thanks again for your input.

[Broadfield]

Yeah, those add-on remote starters are usually pretty worthless since it relies on the range of the factory remote...... which usually isn't much more than 50 - 75 feet. So you would want to simply try the factory remote and see how far you can walk away from the car before it stops working.

For me personally, I could not live without the 2-way confirmation. I also like to be able to start it from inside a restaurant, movie theater, basketball game etc. So I need the distance and the confirmation.

[googlybear]

Cool. I will call around and ask how much it would cost if to install a car starter if I brought my own. What's the distance on the Responder One?

How long does it usually take to install? Seeing it is a push start, it's probably more difficult right?

I might be up for the challenge. I have done radio installs and what not. All I need is the wiring diagram and my dad could probbaly help me out if I needed it.

[Broadfield]

The distance on the Responder One is up to 2000 feet. The install on that vehicle is pretty much the most difficult/time consuming one we do. You would receive very detailed instructions from me, specifically for your car.

[googlybear]

Cool. Sounds like a plan. Will I need to purchase any additional accessories or parts to get it to work?

[Broadfield]

You would need a DLPK interface. It runs $69. This would interface with the push button, bypass the immobilizer and disarm the factory security upon remote starting.

Toby

[googlybear]

Cool. Do you mind if I call you tonight? I just have some more questions that would be easier to ask on the phone.

Thanks,

[Broadfield]

Cool. Do you mind if I call you tonight? I just have some more questions that would be easier to ask on the phone.

Thanks,

Sweet! I always prefer communicating via phone. If I don't answer, please leave a message and let me know what the latest I can call you Central time.

Thanks,

Toby

[jace_xiong]

So I decided I would like the Viper 5901, but there's a few more questions I'd like to get answers for first.

1. I own a 1995 240sx SE, are there any additional parts (relays, wires, etc) I would need to install myself? can you supply them & just charge me? lol

2. Mines comes with the factory alarm, I've heard that it needs to be "bypassed". Is that something I can do myself or should I just let a shop install it?

3. total cost of Viper 5901 + "extra parts" + proximity sensor?

Thanks much. :]

[Broadfield]

Sweet man.... that's a great system!

1) No, you do not need any extra parts..... if you did I would supply them anyway.

2) Yes, the OEM alarm needs to be disarmed during remote start. The Viper has a specific wire that is for disarming OEM security.... cake!

3) $298 shipped for everything. I will also include a tech sheet that will tell you where all of the wires are that you need to tap in the vehicle.

Thanks,

Toby

[jace_xiong]

great, one last question.. do you solder or t-tap the wires? I can solder, but seems like there's not much room to solder all the connection points due to the limited space their located in..

P.S. Money SENT! :]


Modified by jace_xiong at 6:17 PM 2/19/2010

[Broadfield]

Well, I solder of course..... but I am also doing it as a business. So longevity and performance are of the utmost importance. Every once in awhile I will T-tap a wire if it's impossible to get to with strippers. I would recommend at least soldering the heavy gauge wires for the remote start portion of it though.

I got the money! It will ship out on Monday.

Thanks,

Toby

[jace_xiong]

hey im trying to do the install but i cant get the door lock/unlock to work correctly. here's the situation, when i have them connected to the viper it doesn't lock/unlock (even with the driver side switch), but if its not connected (to the viper) it will work as normal (from the driver side switch). I can hear the oem alarm clicking but there no lock/unlock (when connected to viper). please help, i've been at this for 2days. I hear talk about using relays, but im not sure how i should set them up.

Thanks,
Jace

[Broadfield]

This is for an S14 correct? They are straight negative triggers. So the small light/green wire on the 3-pin Viper door lock plug will wire to the lt. green/white wire in the car. The small blue wire on the 3-pin Viper door lock plug will wire to the brown wire in the car. For testing purposes, you can literally quickly touch ground to the lt. green/white wire and it will lock the doors. Likewise the brown wire will unlock the doors.

[jace_xiong]

Yes it's an S14. I tested the wires and they are the correct ones (touching ground to make them lock/unlock), but when it's wired up to the viper brain, they still won't work. when i first connect the wires, it triggers the lock/unlock (so i know there's a connection), but after that initial trigger, they dont work at all.. not even the driver side switch. I don't know what's going on. everything else is working perfectly, just not the lock/unlock feature.

I believe the viper is giving them a constant ground.. it shouldn't do this right? I can set up a relay, but from the specs I shouldn't need one correct? I've been searching the net/google there's barely any info on s14's.. only conclusion im getting are relays.

[Broadfield]

Sounds like you may have a bad unit. Send me an email with your name and I'll get another one shipped out to you stat! Simply plug the new one in when you get it and see if that takes care of your issue. If it does, then simply put the bad brain and remotes into the new box and ship it back to me.

Thanks,

Toby

[jace_xiong]

Okay, I sent you an email. thanks SOOO much, I've been stuck with this for the last few days and it's the main reason I wanted an alarm, keyless lock/unlock lol. Thanks again!

[Broadfield]

New one already on the way!

Thanks,

Toby

[synthtk]

Viper 5901 ordered! Great Prices and Service!

[Space Monkey]

Good to see you're still getting great business and going over the top for customers!!!!

Toby is the man guys! best deals around for the TOP Brands!

<-Satisfied customer!

[Broadfield]

Viper 5901 ordered! Great Prices and Service!

Good to see you're still getting great business and going over the top for customers!!!!

Toby is the man guys! best deals around for the TOP Brands!

<-Satisfied customer!

Thanks guys, it means a lot!

Toby

[kstorm12]

I have a 5701 what add ons do you recommend

[Broadfield]

That's a really vague question. What kind of car is this on and what are you trying to protect? In other words, are you worried about people stealing your wheels, things inside the car, do you leave your windows down and want a motion sensor etc.?

Toby