RB25 vtc vs no vtc

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I don't think I've seen any post up a comparo of vtc vs no vtc on here or any of the aussie sites, so here it is.

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Disabling of vtc was accomplished just by pulling the connector off. With VTC off Peak TQ is relatively unaffected, however you can see the huge *mid range* torque advantage of having it on. Also what you can't see is the ~1psi difference in boost with vtc on having the advantage.

You guys should check to make sure your vtc solenoid is powered, I know there's been more than a few who didn't know it wasn't wired up.


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Nice work! It is great to finally have concrete dyno proof to support all the internet information that has been floating around regarding this topic. I have always read that it was better for low to mid-range torque to have it plugged in and didn't help peak torque because, well, it disengages at ~4700 rpm. Hopefully, all those with RB25/30's will take the time and make the effort to keep the VTC functioning instead of writing it off as a negligible feature.

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StricNyne
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heh, mine is off, i should turn it on i guess. when did he have it engaged, mine is wired in through a external switch, i think its 2000- 4500 or around there

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Darius wrote:Nice work! It is great to finally have concrete dyno proof to support all the internet information that has been floating around regarding this topic. I have always read that it was better for low to mid-range torque to have it plugged in and didn't help peak torque because, well, it disengages at ~4700 rpm. Hopefully, all those with RB25/30's will take the time and make the effort to keep the VTC functioning instead of writing it off as a negligible feature.
The next step is to move the turn off point to 5500 or so. On the last dyno tuning session I did there seems to be a bump in Torque in the later rpm band. Hopefully I'll remember to mess with it with the new turbo.

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What turbo are you using during that test? Where does it make full boost and what psi is that? The dip from the vtc de-energizing is throwing me off, and I can't tell when the wastegate opens. The smoother lines represent the 5500 turn off point, correct? Thanks for sharing!

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Boost was about 14psi on runs 2 and 3 and 16psi on the rest. turbo is 62-1 t3 with full boost about 4700, a lot slower than it should be due to my "custom" .82ar housing.

I was also tuning boost control so disregard the dips in run 2 and 3, they are from the boost control over correcting. There are no longer any big dips in the other dynos just little oscillations that I need to tune out. But no the other lines are just vtc off at 5000. Hard to see but the comparison is really between runs 7 and 8.


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