driftmotion wrote:also ..... a guy in canada got an R34 registered by swaping the frame from a 240 onto his skyline ..... way custom but then registered it as a 240 saying that he had custom built this car from a 240 frame (which had proper salvage vins)

might be something to consider!

this sounds like major bulls*** anyway he more than likely vin swapped the car considering its nearly impossible to swap a unibody chassis

discosteak wrote:who cares if its illegal,

Apparently, those who wish to not break the law.....

audtatious wrote:
Apparently, those who wish to not break the law.....

Then those people should wait till 2014

discosteak wrote:
how could you even remotely say that taking 2 plastic clips off of a fire wall is work let alone more work than the car is worth. what is unsafe about a skyline? they are made of the same s***ty metal that every other nissan is made of. besides its really nothing but a 300zx with a different engine.

who said registering it was a problem? the only problem seems to be registering it as a skyline. why would you want to register a car that is federally illegal anyway?

so aparantly there is two ways to go about owning a skyline, registering it as a skyline and waiting for the fed gov. to come take it. or the way that works and guarantees the gov wont even come looking for it.

who cares if its illegal, it works. i know of two in my area that are registered as 240s both have been pulled over numerous times without problems. and guess what they still go home to the owners driveway every night.

take it from someone who has done it there is a right way and an easy way. yeah the easy way might seem a little shady. but i enjoy getting to keep the things I pay for

when i mentioned doin more work than its worth, i was talkin about what driftmotion said about swapping the frame. and as far as swapping the metal plate on the firewall, you dont even have to, just buy a junk 240 and go to the dmv with that vin and just swap it on the dash, its the only place ive ever seen a cop look at around here, but yeah, i wasnt talkin about what you said when it came to the "work" part of things. people i know with skylines just buy junk 240 part cars and go to the dmv and register their skyline as a 240 with the vin from the junk car. easy as 1-2-3. either way though, all you need is a fed who knows what theyre lookin at to see it and you're caught. dunno bout elsewhere, but tuesdays and thursdays we got feds patroling in NY and everyone knows to buy their drugs other nights of the week, im assuming its the same for cars: just dont drive your skylines all over tues/thursday here and you'll be fine. my friends had his r32gtr for about 2 years now, hassle free. but also, it's a 92 i believe so he doesnt have much time left before he can get legal plates for it heh

oh, and when i mentioned "safe" i put it in quotes because i think its stupidity. there is nothing unsafe about it, but according to DOT it doesnt meet up to standard regulations on safety, i.e. the windshield isn't shatter proof. that's their reasoning on why it's illegal, safety issues. i wasnt trying to say they are unsafe, i was talking about the reasons the gov't use to keep em off our streets.

its the stupidest thing ever, jdm rx-7...no one even notices....jdm supra....big deal......skyline gtr...omg, the feds are gonna crush your car!!!!.....why?? cause its just too awesome or something??? im over it...does anyone else want to deal with it??

DroptopDrifting wrote:oh, and when i mentioned "safe" i put it in quotes because i think its stupidity. there is nothing unsafe about it, but according to DOT it doesnt meet up to standard regulations on safety, i.e. the windshield isn't shatter proof. that's their reasoning on why it's illegal, safety issues. i wasnt trying to say they are unsafe, i was talking about the reasons the gov't use to keep em off our streets.

the windshields ar the exact same thing as we get here in america. I know because i have broken 1

I mentioned the plate under the hood because the car doesnt have vin plates on the dash the car is caged. they are illegal here because they were never crash tested by the DOT. which coincidentally is the same reason the motorex guy is in jail. he lied about crash testing r34's and r32's

there's a lot of tests that weren't done, not just crash testing. and i'm sure they dont make any windshields to completely shatter, but there's a list of specs motorex used to list as what they had to do to be US DOT compliant and i remember swapping the windshield was one of em. but yes, the crash tests were on that list as well, which no one wanted to do because of costs. you have to buy multiple skylines and crash them each one in a different way too....who the hell wanted to spend $100k on skylines just to crash them.

i couldnt care less about what is exaggerated and regulated by DOT or not, i do not personally believe the cars are unsafe in any way. why make a twin turbo i6 powered car and not make it capable of handling and safe... i put my full trust in those cars. it's just DOT's excuse. i wasn't saying i support their excuse in any way, just sayin that that's what they say if you ask em.
Modified by DroptopDrifting at 1:02 PM 7/2/2009

you dont have to worry about any of that suff on a 240sx

driftmotion wrote:also ..... a guy in canada got an R34 registered by swaping the frame from a 240 onto his skyline .....

Ummmm, bulls***.

Both cars are unibody - They don't HAVE a "frame".

discosteak wrote:what is unsafe about a skyline? they are made of the same s***ty metal that every other nissan is made of. besides its really nothing but a 300zx with a different engine.

Dude, you have no clue what you're talking about, so stop while you're behind.

There are several fed regulations (set forth under the FMVSS, which you haven't read) that apply to USDM cars that are not required on cars built for other countries.

And the R32 is nothing like a 300ZX. Please stop posting nonsense.

DroptopDrifting wrote: i do not personally believe the cars are unsafe in any way. why make a twin turbo v6 powered car and not make it capable of handling and safe... i put my full trust in those cars. it's just DOT's excuse. i wasn't saying i support their excuse in any way, just sayin that that's what they say if you ask em.

I agree 100%. I don't like the federal regs any more than you guys do, I think they're a load of CRAP.

However, what I like even LESS is people spouting misinformation. You'll never see me bash on someone for trying to find a way around it - But I *WILL* bring the noise on someone who doesn't READ or do their homework.

BTW, I think you meant "twin-turbo straight-6.".

yeah, lol sorry bout that. i had just woken up. fixed.

Vandrel wrote:
Then those people should wait till 2014

Yep. Better than trusting importers who state they can legally get them into the country.

DroptopDrifting wrote:yeah, lol sorry bout that. i had just woken up. fixed.

All good - I know you know your stuff.

AZhitman wrote:
And the R32 is nothing like a 300ZX. Please stop posting nonsense.

you have obliviously been misled. i would like you to explain how its not like a 300zx. the front suspension is almost exactly the same and the rears on both are setup almost exactly like a 240sx. I dont care about what the US requires that other countries dont. I think its retarded that people wil pay 40k for a "legal" skyline. when that 40 thousand dollars cant be spent on something much better than a pregnant 300zx
Modified by discosteak at 11:54 PM 7/2/2009

By that reasoning, ALL Nissans are "almost exactly the same" suspension-wise.

They share no common components. They are substantially similar, but so are a lot of other Nissans.

Hell, I have a HLSD from an R34 in my S13 - Does that mean my S13 "is really nothing but a GTR with a different engine." ?

You said: "besides its really nothing but a 300zx with a different engine."

So, I'll sit here and let you explain to me how an R32 is "a 300ZX with a different engine".



p.s. I *do* agree with your last statement.

AZhitman wrote:By that reasoning, ALL Nissans are "almost exactly the same" suspension-wise.

They share no common components.

the front suspension on an r32 gts is 100% swappable with 300zx minus the front subframe, same with the rear. from the knuckles in they are pretty much exactly the same. which is why i said they are the same things with different engines. obiviously they arent exactly the same but unless you get a GTR they are pretty much the same thing. i dont think i was spreading mis information i think maybe i should have put it differently

I'll go along with that.

Lots of Nissans share the same componentry, that's where I was coming from.

Hi I was reading a little , and I am in the middle of buying 93 RHD rx-7 imported from Japan, has all needed paperwork, will I come across these problems as well?

jaydem916 wrote:Hi I was reading a little , and I am in the middle of buying 93 RHD rx-7 imported from Japan, has all needed paperwork, will I come across these problems as well?

The 1993 Mazda RX7 is on the NHTSA list as an elgible vehicle to import. Probably because it's very similar to the USDM model.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/CARS/...9.pdf

It still needs to go through an RI and get all the proper documentation, but it is not as difficult as the process involving a Skyline due to the fact they actually sold the RX7 here. Here are the NHTSA Docket numbers for the 1993 RX7:

NHTSA-1998-4578NHTSA-1999-5863

ok thanks, Ill keep you posted if I have anymore questions

I'm truly sorry for what's happened... My dream is to own a Skyline after I get through college. It's pretty sad to know that no matter how hard I work growing up, I'll never reach my dream because some federal lawmakers are stubborn and refuse to listen to reason. I'm truly sorry for your loss. Good luck, and keep us updated.

Sorry to hear about your trouble thomasK(austin). It has been awhile, hope there is an update to your story.

Vandrel wrote:Then those people should wait till 2014

audtatious wrote:Yep. Better than trusting importers who state they can legally get them into the country.

Yup... that's what I've been kinda figuring. Forget about shady 'importing', shady 'state registration', and make believe 'legal' land.

Either wait..., or get one that is off all the books and don't screw it up by trying to get it on the books... Then limit your advertising of such a car in possession and wait. Wait for things to change or wait for it all to go to hell, which economically speaking is an inevitable. Maybe then they truly will be "too busy" (and broke) to worry about the dangerous monstrous killing machines from Japan which make children cry, destroy families and burn down villages...

If I had to endure a socioeconomic collapse... I bet it'd have to be better in a GTR!

EZcheese15 wrote:
The 1993 Mazda RX7 is on the NHTSA list as an elgible vehicle to import. Probably because it's very similar to the USDM model.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/CARS/...9.pdf

It still needs to go through an RI and get all the proper documentation, but it is not as difficult as the process involving a Skyline due to the fact they actually sold the RX7 here. Here are the NHTSA Docket numbers for the 1993 RX7:

NHTSA-1998-4578NHTSA-1999-5863

This is what you need to be VERY carful with

All cars listed on the non-conforming eligibility list are specificly noted to be LHD vehicles unless speacially marked as "RHD". If you see a vehicle on there that doesn't have "RHD" next to it then it's LHD which is a U.S. model.

RX-7's are not listed as RHD.

Vandrel wrote:
This is what you need to be VERY carful with

All cars listed on the non-conforming eligibility list are specificly noted to be LHD vehicles unless speacially marked as "RHD". If you see a vehicle on there that doesn't have "RHD" next to it then it's LHD which is a U.S. model.

RX-7's are not listed as RHD.

Ah!! Very good point. Thanks for the correction. I knew that, I just forgot about that. I didn't look just now, but I remember in the past the only vehicle on that list marked RHD was the R33 GTR.

This is why I like where I live. I can have whatever I want no problem.

Just waiting for my R31 to get here.

EZcheese15 wrote: but I remember in the past the only vehicle on that list marked RHD was the R33 GTR.

99' BNR34 V Spec is up for show and display now

Sorry everyone i never update what is going on.

That is because NOTHING is going on. I have yet to recieve ANY feedback on the status of my petition to export it out of the US.

I just dont like coming onto the forum because it is a reminder of a bad time in my life.

I Guarantee i will let everyone know what happens as this is a spreading occurance as time goes on, maybe they are just holding my car for this long until every jihad skyline is caught...

So, they simply have it sitting in a warehouse somewhere?

I saw a skyline up for auction somewhere the other day and it was listed for "export only".