Be careful there. Very very careful. If you think you can jump a beat because you bring the car through Canadian boarder instead of through a port, that car has just fallen into what Jbracy7 mentioned, a gray market car. You can import the car, get it registered, get insurance, drive it daily, even sell it to another buyer, it can still be a gray market car. If homeland security suddenly takes up interest in your car, it will be picked up and destroyed. The same case for an import from Australia because the cars there do not require deregistration from Japan.surfevo wrote:M35Squirrel the Canadian paperwork, just like our US paperwork only states the model year. So any 1990 model should be open for import through Canada.
mine came in from Japan, via ship into the port of Jacksonville. was in inspected there, at the a separate DOT inspect, and once by the state. It cleared all 3 just fine.surfevo wrote:So you drove yours across? did CBP pop your hood and inspect?
This isn't factual at all. You can import a 25 year old car legally now. Does not have to be under show and display, and Show and display does not require it remain unmodified or have no aftermarket parts on it. Putting an RB30 in it will get you into hot water (before it arrives).jbracy7 wrote:Still gray market,dot will seize and crush it if they find it, i have a r32 brought in on a show and display, and they send inspectors to make sure i only display it,
I went through this last year, I purchased my car in DEC and Trevor drove his car over 1/1/14 (was a DEC 89 car). He used this "canada only uses year argument", which at that point I wanted my car brought in through Canada and not have to wait as long. Heard back from DHS and they advised that the Birth MONTH and YEAR is what they go by, and using Canada paperwork as a argument might get the car in early, but it is still subject to seizure if/when it was caught up on. Using a "FAST" account will be able to take the vin number and pull up all the chassis information down to the nuts and bolts. Sure you might get it quicker, you might even make it past the boarder petrol (though they have gotten more up on the subject this year and are actually starting to get educated on the subject), but you will still be stuck watching your back for the rest of the years. If and when it is caught, it isn't "turn around and pay a fine" it is seized situation if it is caught.surfevo wrote:M35Squirrel the Canadian paperwork, just like our US paperwork only states the model year. So any 1990 model should be open for import through Canada.
I guess I could call the Canadian Border Patrol and ask but I was looking for experience other members have had first hand.
Purely at the discretion of the CBP agent inspecting your car. There is no hard and fast definition of what "unmodified" condition consists of as the only thing that should definitely fail an inspection is a non-original engine/drivetrain swapped in.joshga wrote:Hello all, i am about 90% ready to purchase a 1989 GTR from canada. I found one i liked, it has some minor mods... its putting down about 430whp. My question is, will the CBP let me bring this car over from canada through NY border if the car has a top mounted single turbo kit? it also has a FMIC among other things. The engine is the factory R32 engine, and not swapped.
I do not want to tip my hand to customs for them to start looking for single turbo kits. In my opnion, the car is in stock form as its still a turbo car, but i want to make sure before i book an expensive plane ticket and remove funds from my bank.
thank you for any assistance, i searched but did not come up with any first hand experience.
No, that's not legal. The car has to be purchased legally beforehand, and then imported legally by you, the US owner.joshga wrote:also, while the thought just came to mind, can anyone speak on the following question:
If the canadian owner brings his car into the US through the border, and I then purchase the car on the US side of the border, is that legal? how do you get the proper customs declaration papers? please forgive me if this is something that is not legal, i honestly dont know which is why i am asking. I want to make sure i do this 100% legally without hassle.
If it was registered in Canada then you'll need the Canadian ownership certificate, the bill of sale, EPA 3520-1, and DOT HS-7. CBP will require proof that the car is 25 years old with the month - for Japanese cars usually they ask for the Japanese Export Certificate. If you bought it from an importer with experience selling cars to the US then they should be able to provide the Export Certificate or alternate documentation to prove the month and year the car was made or registered.Thefloatplace wrote:Hey all
I have a 91 gts4 that im importing come Jan. The car has been registered in canada for a few years. I actually used a jdm importer, based in canada, to purchase the car through. Aside from the Bill of Sale, and the EPA form and hs-7, is there anything else im going to need to get this beast home?
I got alot of info from this thread already. Thanks guys
Yes, the ownership certificate I'm referring to is whatever registration document is issued by the Canadian state the car was registered in. CBP will want proof of ownership and DMV will ask for a title which Canada doesn't use so you'll need that registration document.Thefloatplace wrote:Im clear on all the stuff, except the Canadian Ownership Cert, im guessing thats our version of a title? When i asked the seller about it, he referred to a Registration Card as a form.
He is a Canadian importer, so isnt very familiar with US laws. Just knows its 25 lol.
I guess that nissan doesnt put the month/year on the car itself, which is why i would need more info about it. Im guessing its depending on the cbp agent working on how tough itll be to get in. Do they typically accept printed out information from some of those sites?