Overboosted180's CA powered S13 on the dyno!

[boost_boy]

http://videos.streetfire.net/v...9.htm This is one of his power runs after the engine was satisfactorily tuned.

http://videos.streetfire.net/v...c.htm This is the 1st dyno run.

http://videos.streetfire.net/v...3.htm This is the 2nd dyno. The 1st one is being optimized.

Though this video doesn't have heaps of footage of the car and it's features, this more of a visual/sound clip, but this is some idea as to where his car is at. It actually put out 303 lb/ft. of torque on one pull that is not on this video. Trying to tune his car was a treat and then trying to tune for power was even a bigger treat. I can happily say, it can take 30+psi and not spit-up one drop of oil. Btw, the first pull netted him around 322whp @18psi with no tuning, but his car was kinda lean and timing was probably conservative. The DIS-2's ignition cut was set too low and fought with the ignition cut of the SDS system which resulted in low rpm pulls, but still got excellent power.

I'm posting this more for him and his visuals, but I'll be happy to answer as many questions as possible if there's any.

Dee

[OverBoosted180]

That was a beautiful day Dee!! I feel more free now that the tuning level is taken care of..Can't wait to get back on the rollers and push out that real power that we're after!

Beware all CA owners. History is now in the making!

[float_6969]

Congrats! That's great power. I'll bet that car is a blast.

[Rookieca18det]

congrats man glad to hear it. Im hunting for a shell right now but i hope to be on the dyno as soon a can swap everything into a new shell. Great numbers so far keep it.

[tyrannix]

a quick reminder on the long block build would be great (searching == fail)

we all know its running a MSD 2 box and an SDS

CJ

[Kouks]

Damn, 386whp, which turbo are you using, I was gonna use a gt2871r with a .86ar to get close to that.

[capwred]

congrats man .glad to see a ca out there making good hp.

but i did think it would make more then that at 18psi with the big turbo.but i guess the 6800rpm didnt help non either. make s me want to get off my *** and get to work on mine.

thanks again

[tyrannix]

other question, what MAP sensor you use thats good for over 2 bar of boost? (and another question about EMS in general in teh other thread, where you get the hall setup, (where and what type sensors and magnets)

CJ

[boost_boy]

other question, what MAP sensor you use thats good for over 2 bar of boost? (and another question about EMS in general in teh other thread, where you get the hall setup, (where and what type sensors and magnets)

CJ

SDS has a company that has a map sensor for up to 37psi and 60psi respectfully. I'm going to order a new system for my drag car with my attention focused on the 60psi set-up. I was told they have poor resolution, but I am prepared to deal with this as well.

As for hall sensors, the SDS system provides these as standard equipment as well as the magnets. The hall sensor bracket is a custom piece that I have made for customers' cars as well as my own and makes out for a pretty clean install all the way around because I can now remove all the stock nissan hardware including the crank angle sensor in which I personally hate. Hope this info helps, but if you have any more info, feel free to email me as you and I have unfinished business that I need to take care of.

Dee

[ccasey645]

Thats the kind of modivation i needed!

[OverBoosted180]

Damn, 386whp, which turbo are you using, I was gonna use a gt2871r with a .86ar to get close to that.

Using a 60-1

[OverBoosted180]

congrats man glad to hear it. Im hunting for a shell right now but i hope to be on the dyno as soon a can swap everything into a new shell. Great numbers so far keep it.

Thanks man! We were limited of the time we had on the dyno, and didn't have time to sort out the kinks that the igniton had. Once all is fixed, I'll take it back to the rollers and put out some BIG numbers for you guys. Dee and I are on the hunt for it and will do what we can to make this bad girl live up to her expectations! Can't wait to see your car on the dyno too man! Let me know when the big date is. Keep me informed!

-Gerry

[tyrannix]

besides the cams, what else was not stock internals?

CJ

[XTCshri2222]

I wish you could build my car. Thats very impressive dyno

[dattodude]

That totally rocks man..

Kick *** for the CA18 power. Hats off to you, you've got me 're-excited'.

I'll be driving my beast tomorrow afternoon. I need to get to a dyno to see the best of mine too!

Thanks for the encouragement.. It's good to share the same dream.

[OverBoosted180]

Thanx dude! Can't wait to take it to the track! We all seriously need to meet up and take a drive or have a BBQ.

[USsil80]

as far as the SDS do you find the system a little out dated... with it not being able to hook up to a laptop or datalog... also do you have any pictures of your hall sensor setup.. thanks...

[boost_boy]

as far as the SDS do you find the system a little out dated... with it not being able to hook up to a laptop or datalog... also do you have any pictures of your hall sensor setup.. thanks...

As for the SDS being out-dated, I personally don't think so. It's a product they chose to create to be as simple as can be as well as being able to do the multiple functions that most laptop-reliant systems do. I think if they wanted to create a system depending on a laptop, it can be done, but their sales are soaring and some people like the simplicity of the hand held controller (I do). As for the datalogging, their new systems now have the option of datalogging air/fuel ratios by rpm, which makes it much more simpler to tune. I'm not going to sit here and tell you this system is the easiest to tune. It all boils down to who's tuning and how they tune. Some of the techs at SDS says I tune differently from the way they tune, but we all end up at the same point one. I won't even tell you that it's the best bang for the buck because I'm biased towards SDS, so you'll have to find out through your own experiences.

Dee

Hall sensor pics from CA18DET powered B13 sentra:

[boost_boy]

That totally rocks man..

Kick *** for the CA18 power. Hats off to you, you've got me 're-excited'.

I'll be driving my beast tomorrow afternoon. I need to get to a dyno to see the best of mine too!

Thanks for the encouragement.. It's good to share the same dream.

Please do take your beast out! It's no good sitting at home like my car is. It hurts me to see mine sitting, but I have other people's cars to prepare, so my stuff will have to take the back seat. And by all means get it to a dyno! Don't worry about building power, but focus on effective and reliable tuning. Good luck!

Dee

[boost_boy]

besides the cams, what else was not stock internals?

CJ

Pistons, rings, valve springs!

Dee

[tyrannix]

cooli forgot your email, or id just email you (at work now again)

but what i said about the tomei springs, those are good for my purpose with your cam regrinds?

i want to get the order in. as i said, im leaving tomorrow until thursday, probably wont have internet access until i come back

thinking now, ill probably do the ca20det in stages, start with the crank it came with, just add teh crank girdle and oil squirters + pistons and machine work for DOHC ...

then after thats all gravy, later on, or another CA20 will get the awesome crank, with frankenstein rods and pistons

CJ

edit> speaking of, i forgot to ask you in email, do you have any wrecked CA blocks laying around, or get a price on a girdle, squirters and bellhousing? I have an extra CA18det in parts, but its my backup for if/when i blow up the one in there now

[dash]

strong ca18. Good show, good stuff.To "make history", you'd need alot more parts (and turbo than a 60-1).

on the SDS comment;I got a couple 'sds' friends datalogging using 'western motorsports'? unit. I believe it was developed by some mustang tuners.

For the buck, there are some cheap/good basic ones out there.Some fellow starions run a $495 fuel-only, +$185 for ignition. Done 400whp/400ft-lbs tq on pump gas. Drives fine. 60-1 also.Seen holley 950 commander go 10.8sec, full wt, street car. Owner first standalone d.i.y. tuned! Said he paid ~$700 wihout loom (made his).Both laptop tuned. Low dollar choices exist.

[OverBoosted180]

If you asked me,

strong ca18. Good show, good stuff.To "make history", you'd need alot more parts (and turbo than a 60-1).

on the SDS comment;I got a couple 'sds' friends datalogging using 'western motorsports'? unit. I believe it was developed by some mustang tuners.

For the buck, there are some cheap/good basic ones out there.Some fellow starions run a $495 fuel-only, +$185 for ignition. Done 400whp/400ft-lbs tq on pump gas. Drives fine. 60-1 also.Seen holley 950 commander go 10.8sec, full wt, street car. Owner first standalone d.i.y. tuned! Said he paid ~$700 wihout loom (made his).Both laptop tuned. Low dollar choices exist.

If you asked me or anyone else, We'd all agree to saying that I am making history. How many CA's that are still 1.8(not mentioning the stroked to 2.0 Version) do you know that are perfectly tuned putting out 400+ to the wheels out on the streets of the U.S.? I wouldn't say I would need more parts..I could crank 500 horses out of this puppy if needed, the turbo would probably take the BIGGEST A** whooping of it's life and then die, but I would make it! It only gets better! Stay tuned Mr. Dash! We won't let you down!

[teambuiltnissan]

I know one only car that is making way more than 400+ on street.. that would be mine.... I am driving same engine and same car for about 20K miles or so..

dee knows.. how is everything dee.. I just came back from 14hours JDM flight back.

great work for your car and dee knows about alot about CA..

its pretty tough to get a 500+ out of your set up.. I would like to see. keep post ithttp://www.yellowmunsontuning.com

Modified by teambuiltnissan at 10:17 PM 8/13/2006
Modified by teambuiltnissan at 10:18 PM 8/13/2006

[dash]

yep, yellowmunson ca is the first that comes to mind. He seems to have cracked the code on a hi-output ca18 that can actually live long while doing it. I believe thats done on sr20 ecu also? Amazing.

IIRC, Mark was at 440+ atw over 6 years ago with his ca18. Ironically he used sds too. He's now making ~1000hp with his sr20. Would've been interesting to see what he could squeeze out of a 'street' ca18, had he still been playing with it. Thing is, there is no market and not much love for our little ca18... so I guess the door is wide open for whoever wants to 'make history' with a street ca18. We've seen what a ca18 can do in uk, oz & japan. You guys are soldiers. You won't let me down, I'm already impressed!

teambuiltnissan,you do any ca18 ecu tunes for street ? say for z32 maf + 550s etc

[teambuiltnissan]

thank you for your comments.

garage-paddy ( yellow S13 silvia with CA18 with 632hp in japan), he was just here 2 weeks ago and we experimented stock ecu with 1600cc injectos and GT42R .

I just returned from japan yesterday while all of crazy toro and bumbs.I will be working on my ca18 for shake down test at bristol dragway in couple of weeks.

[boost_boy]

Hey Scott! How's everything been? Got your new engine put together yet? Overboosted's car has the ability to topple 500whp, but trying to accomplish that feat in one dyno session on the schedule that I live off is nearly impossible. Time and the secondary ignition system stopped all tuning. His timing is generously set so that he can get that power off street gas. I think there's another 100hp or so left in that turbo, but it is just a thought. And besides, we got a big NHRA event this weekend, so I need his car to be intact to see how she does. And to top it all off, I'm trying to get another car as well as my own ready, so I have my two hands full. Keep me updated on your build-up as I'm very interested to see how the new components work for you.

Dee

[OverBoosted180]

Hey All! The Dyno Sheet is now posted in the Dyno Thread! Check It Out!

[davidricardo86]

Quick question, with proper tuning, what have the stock det pistons handle or have been known to handle xxx whp, safely?

What type of internal work did you do? Block, crank, rods, pistons, head?

Car sounds good and youre making a lot of power from that 1.8L! Great job.

[OverBoosted180]

Quick question, with proper tuning, what have the stock det pistons handle or have been known to handle xxx whp, safely?

What type of internal work did you do? Block, crank, rods, pistons, head?

Car sounds good and youre making a lot of power from that 1.8L! Great job.

Hey Davidricardo! Thanx alot! To be honest, I've seen some stock CA's clear just about 350-400 Whp bone stock internals. Of course with magnificent tuning. I wouldn't recommend you go out and try it without the tuning but internally stock, you could put out 300-safely!

I'm on a mission so I've got a few goodies. Pistons, Cams, and some machine work just to tease!

-Gerry