Nissan and JATCO Develop Innovative, Next-Generation CVT

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Nissan and JATCO Develop Innovative, Next-Generation CVT

TOKYO (July 22)--Nissan Motor Co., Ltd., a long-time leader in the development and application of CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) technology, and its affiliate transmission supplier JATCO Ltd. today announced the joint development of a new generation of compact and lightweight CVTs.Next-generation CVT

Next-generation CVT

The next-generation CVT design features an innovative structure combining conventional CVT belt operation with an auxiliary gearbox and a significantly increased gear ratio range. The new CVT is scheduled to appear in compact Nissan vehicles worldwide in the near future.

Major features of the new CVT are:

* World's highest transmission ratio for quicker starts and acceleration The new structure raises the available transmission ratio from current 6.0:1 to 7.3:1, more than 20 percent higher than other CVTs, for enhanced responsiveness on starting and acceleration. The 7.3:1 ratio is higher than the average conventional 7-speed automatic transmissions used on high-displacement engine-equipped vehicles, making it among the world's highest ratios for production vehicle use*. * Compact and lightweight This revolutionary CVT configuration combines a belt-operated CVT with an auxiliary transmission, shortening its overall length by 10 percent and reducing weight by 13 percent compared to conventional CVTs in its class. * Superb drivability The next-generation CVT features the Adaptive Shift Control (ASC), which improves performance by automatically selecting the best ratio for startup, acceleration and uphill or downhill driving.

"Nissan believes the CVT has very good potential as a leading technology for raising the fuel efficiency of internal-combustion engine systems," said Shuichi Nishimura, corporate vice president, Nissan Powertrain Engineering Division. "Nissan first began applying CVT technology in 1991 and has been continuously evolving CVTs, engine-cooperative management and other systems, and expanding their use in Nissan vehicles. The need to improve fuel economy, with the resulting reductions in CO2 emissions motivated us to step up our efforts in the joint development with JATCO of this next-generation CVT."

JATCO, the world's leading CVT manufacturer, is the only company that offers a full range of CVTs for applications from mini-vehicles up to 3.5-liter V6-equipped cars. The company produces 43 percent of CVTs made globally.

"The revolutionary structure of the next-generation CVT, with its auxiliary transmission, not only raises the transmission ratio, reduces weight and adds fuel efficiency, its compact design also expands its applicability to a broader range of vehicles," said Yo Usuba, vice president, JATCO. "We believe it is an excellent choice for automakers seeking to raise the fuel efficiency of their smaller cars."

Based on the mid-term environmental program "Nissan Green Program 2010," Nissan and JATCO have achieved sales of 1 million CVT-equipped vehicles, as well as introducing 7-speed automatic transmissions to improve fuel efficiency. The companies will continue to introduce effective technologies and products into the market in pursuit of a sustainable mobility society.


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Interesting story, I'm interetested to see how they perform when they come out compared to the CVT's that we have now...

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Really interesting, I get pumped to hear news like that, but the problem is I always want to buy the latest technology but that gets expensive!! I told myself I'd keep my 08 Rogue for 10 years, it's giong to be tough with tempting new tech like this (although I really love my Rogue, so it won't be too hard to hold on to it). I'd like to know more about the auxilliary gearbox etc.... maybe more details will come later.

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My best guess:

They added a planetary gearset similar to an automatic transmission. By engaging/disengaging the clutch on the planetary gearset, it can shift between two distinct gear 'ranges'. This would allow them to use a smaller diameter pulley set for the CVT belt and provide a larger range of ratio's. The trick will be how to control the 'shift' so as not to negate the CVT's inherent smoothness.

Could be interesting.

BTW, the RE0F10A CVT used in the Rogue has a range of 5.96:1

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Updated Photos:

There appears to be a clutch pack in the upper LH corner near the output shaft. It may be the 'planetary gearset' I was talking about above.





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Thanks for sharing.

Some folks like me would be interested in seeing that transmission used on the 370 Z convertible roadster.

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The new CVT is scheduled to appear in compact Nissan vehicles worldwide in the near future.
This transmission for smaller cars/engines... at least for now.

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Great idea for sure but still the CVT can't be fixed, only replaced . So you may get stuck with a car with 100K on it and needing a $6000 transmission. What I'd like to see them do is put a torque converter on the 6 speed with a clutch. Chrysler did it years ago and they ran forever.

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I have never replaced or repaired a transmission in any of my vehicles. This includes 4 Nissan's as well as other vehicles I've cared for... Mazda's and Honda's. Most of these vehicles (except the Rogue) were driven in excess of 150,000mi (250,000km). My Rogue now has 40,000mi (67,000km).

I guess the issue of not being able to 'service' a CVT transmission depends on whether you ever think you'll wear it out or have problems. I have never needed to worry about it.

As for why the CVT cannot be serviced, I got the straight answer from a Nissan/Infiniti tech:

The CVT is a very complex unit and cannot be serviced at the dealer as it requires specialized tools and knowledge that is well beyond what most service tech's are trained for. Only the factory (Jatco) has the tools needed to assemble these transmissions.

As for clutchless manuals and DSG gearboxes, you still have fixed ratio's. The nearly infinite ratio's of the CVT and seemless operation is it's strength.


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philipa_240sx wrote:I have never replaced or repaired a transmission in any of my vehicles. This includes 4 Nissan's as well as other vehicles I've cared for... Mazda's and Honda's. Most of these vehicles (except the Rogue) were driven in excess of 150,000mi (250,000km).
Wow... I wish I could make that claim. Either you're really lucky... or I'm unlucky. (or both of us are exceptions to the rule). I've more or less surrendered to the fact that replacing transmissions is a major expense you should plan on if you own a car.

Just went and dug out my auto history: 1967 Chevy Impala - 183,000 mi... (trans replaced)1972 Chevy Nova - 164 mi... (not a type-o, 164 mi, trans replaced)1975 Chevy Monza - 67,000 mi... (manual trans - replaced)1978 Honda Accord - 58,000... (trans replaced)1990 Ford F150 - 141,000 mi... (trans replaced)1990 Ford F150 - 164,000 mi... (replaced again )

I have never abused my cars, done any crazy power shifting, towing, shifted while in motion, etc. I always perform all the recommended maintenance etc. All but one of my transmissions failed the same way. i.e., started loosing power (slipping... high RPMs with nor acceleration)

Ironically I just picked up the Ford F150 "yesterday" after having the transmission reworked for the second time. With only 24,000mi on the replacement it threw the front main seal. Since it only had 24K on it when it failed, the shop that did the original replacement just charged me for labor - $416. I wasn't happy about it since I already paid them $1800 only 24K miles earlier.

FYI: I should point out that I haven't had to replace all my transmissions. The following cars worked flawlessly until I sold or traded them in.

1958 Nash Metropolitan 147,0001962 Ford Falcon 106,0001968 Chevy Caprice 132,0001972 GMC Vandura 161,0001982 Toyota Corolla 274,0001992 Acura Vigor 189,000

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My luck has run a lot closer to yours Elton than to Philipa's but the CVT in my Murano has me scared even though no problems thru 70K. Sure wish there was the new 7 speed auto option. These forums are full of posts with problems with the CVT.

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Early Muranos (2003) suffered from alot of CVT issues. It's old news to me as I have not heard of anyone having issues with later model years.

Now, don't get me started on Ford transmissions.... We used to have Ford Aerostars for company service trucks. I have to honestly say they were junk. The transmission was one of the biggest issues.

My personal best: 180,000mi (300,000km) and 13 years on the original 3spd automatic in my Pathfinder. Did regular fluid changes and one repair for a broken solenoid wire. That's it. I haven't touched any of the transmissions in any of my other cars, including my 240SX race car.

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Boy you sure are lucky as the early Pathfinders (WD21) were notorious for bad auto transmissions. I think they only used the 3 speed from '86-87 but they burned up as fast as they could put them in. They could be fixed though by local shops unlike the CVT's so you didn't end up with a throw-away vehicle.

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Yes, it was an '86.5 Pathfinder. #749... so one of the very first off the assembly line. The was also built in the same Kyushu plant as the Rogue. It was a 2dr SE-V6 4x4 with a sunroof.

I understood it was the later 4spd's that had overheating issues, not the 3spd. The preventative fix (according to a Nissan tech I spoke to) was to ditch the stock trans cooler and add a proper external transmission cooler/radiator.

Anyway, I never had issues with it.

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Expecting to see the first model introduction of this next-gen CVT, perhaps the Rogue will be the first?

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Actually, the new 2012 Versa features this new CVT with the auxiliary 2 spd gearbox:
The Versa Sedan is available with a 5-speed manual transmission (1.6 S model only) and with a next-generation Xtronic CVT™ transmission. The CVT allows continuous change of the transmission gear ratio by connecting the two pulleys with a metallic belt and changing their diameter by using hydraulic pressure. The new CVT design adds an auxiliary gearbox using planetary gearing, helping improve efficiency.
http://www.nissannews.com/pressrelease/ ... car-brings


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