Need help figuring out pins for aftermarket GPS install

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ztide
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Hello everyone.
I have a 2012 rogue SV with a factory backup camera/siriusXM radio with bluetooth which i am replacing with the Clarion NX602.

I plugged in all the wires, but I am stumped on the camera and steering wheel interface wires.

I bought a pac audio SWI-RC and they show these instructions:
http://www.pac-audio.com/SWI/SWIAppGuid ... o%20+%20BT

I see there these pinouts for 2 connectors, the Nissan08 (the regular wiring harness which I have the adapter for) and the Nissan32bt (what they call a "b55" connector).
http://www.pac-audio.com/SWI/images/nis ... an32bt.jpg

I also have been searching extensively online about this, found that I can reuse the factory-installed backup camera since it is a regular RCA, and found an "M89" connector (which i think is for rogues with a nav system factory installed) and is different than the B55 I have. The pinouts for M89 show that the backup camera's 4 wires (2 power and 2 video signal) are pins in the M89 connector.
I found that here: http://www.kenwoodforums.com/viewtopic. ... d&start=10
and directly here: http://www.kenwoodforums.com/download/file.php?id=1052
However, I don't know which pins they are in my connectors (either the B55 or another ones that I don't know what it does).

So being that pictures speak SO much louder than words, I took and edited the following pictures so you can see my factory radio and the wires I have:

here is the imageshack link for all of them http://imageshack.us/g/526/img00434201208081929.jpg/

and here are the direct links individually:
http://imageshack.us/f/100/img00435201208082143.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/28/img00430201208081928.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/846/img00431201208081928.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/528/img00432201208081928.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/526/img00434201208081929.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/850/img00433201208081928.jpg/


So in short, I am asking if anyone knows where are the 4 camera wires?
Is there is a reverse positive wire in the harness or anywhere else for me to plug into my Clarion so it knows when the rogue is in reverse?
And what is that blue cable for?
I read in the link I gave before (with the m89 connector) that the backup camera requires 6volts. Is this true? what would happen if I just wire the regular 12 volt power that the clarion gps uses? (I used 12 volts for the aftermarket backup camera I used for my altima)

Those are my camera questions.

For the steering wheel interface, I think I got the wires worked out in the harness (im just trying to destroy a spare harness to harvest spare pins from it as I need another 3 that my harness that I'm using doesn't have).
The only problem is I am required to disconnect the bluetooth module which is in the trunk on the right side wall panel.
Does anyone know how to remove that panel? (it is hard plastic and I'm only used to removing soft lining from my altima trunk ;-) )

On a last side note, is there any way to rig the satellite antenna to use with other sirius radios (if I get the sv2000 would it be the same shape or riggable?

I only have like 2 days to finish this before I go back to school so if anyone can help me I would REALLY appreciate it.
Thank you for all your help!


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Leo2005
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Well it could it be redesigned but who knows. Seems like your "white lines" connector belongs to satellite xm radio connector which in the past used same fm antenna combined with xm antenna but now they separated for external "pink" connector. And blue socket is for bluetooth which is redesigned also. BTW on my pioneer blue socket means connecting any external device which similar in your case for example xm adapter, bluetooth unit etc. Not sure 100%. Try it and let us know. There's nothing you can short by connecting or ignoring with these couple plugs. Here's the pic from oem radio on 08 rogue:
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ztide
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thanks for the help.
the pink must be the XM antenna, it is "carried together" with the radio antenna wires in the rogue and it is exactly the same shape as my external sirius radio's antenna piece.
Unfortunately, the outside of the connector is a bit different so I can't use actually use the vehicle's satellite antenna with one of those sirius units, unless I can find an adapter somewhere (the inside is EXACTLY the same). Looking it up, i see it is called a "fakra" connector, and they do sell adapters but to go the opposite way (to use an oem receiver with one of the new non-fakra antennas).
while i have the same shape connector of what you call "satellite radio", on mine it was unused so they must of had just kept it on the 2012 model.

the blue connector i think might be USB but i'm not sure.
I would need to look through the service manual a bit more for that.

but i did wire the factory backup camera and steering wheel connectors thanks to that service manual.
I used a 12 to 6 volt transformer to power the backup camera and wired the reverse signal and the video signals too

the only problem i have left is now the engine light goes on when i start the car.
I tried going into diagnostic mode with the fancy pedal footwork but it just does 4 long flashes and stays solid- it does not repeat no matter how long i wait.

I don't have a reader, so i left the battery disconnected now and will check tomorrow after it hopefully self-cleared its memory to see if it will still go on.
if it does im gonna have a fit since i got no more time to deal with it.

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Leo2005
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While replacing my radio to pioneer i got engine light as well while connecting speedo to unit. Get yourself bluetooth obd2 adapter which works perfectly with phones to check/clear ecu. You can do a lot more than that...they're about $15 on ebay and it doesn't have to be expensive like kiwi for $100. Get yourself an app for the phone and start checking your car. Back to subject...what about bluetooth? Did you figure out the mic from oem radio? It used to be located in dome light grill. If you look next to the mood light (tiny hole near dome light) you will see a grill where mic been located in older models but can't tell about new one. I think that mic was connected to the blue connector. As for usb I thought it's built-in in new units? :confused:

ztide
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great!
i was worried about the engine light- but then again i do work with my car's battery still plugged in so i can test stuff live so thats probably what messed with it.
add the fact that i was removing the factory's bluetooth module while still plugged in so it prob got a bunch of errors from that too
i'll have to wait till tomorrow morning to replug the battery back in for it to clear and we will see where we are.

ive only got the engine light on once before, with my altima, and that was bec i tried starting the car without the battery plugged in tightly (apparently it senses these things). I used the self-diagnostic mode to read and clear it so i had no need for a reader. this rogue though i can't get into that mode and i don't know why. i prob will get a reader...eventually.

i removed the right panel of the trunk to unplug the bluetooth module and to loop some of the pins that the steering interface needed, it was a lot easier than i thought it would be.

the mic has pins to power and get audio from the dome light grill to the bluetooth module in the back trunk.
pinout is here and is what pac's steering interface called the 32bt:
http://postimage.org/image/upbazjpxn/
while i could technically string wires back from the trunk all the way to the front to power and receive from the built-in mic, it would be annoying.
im gonna use the clarion's built-in one now and get a clarion external one if needed later- either way it will be easier than rewiring the rogue's mic.

looking up xm adapters, it should be possible to reuse the rogues built-in antenna (pink connector), i just need to figure out how to get the reverse fakra adapter that they are not selling (they are selling only one way- to use a factory oem radio with one of the standard antennas they use in external receivers)

anyway, the camer wires and reverse signal ARE part of what I called the 32bt connector (but is really not a 32bt connector, its just the same shape). The real connector is called m85 and is here with the pinout:
http://postimage.org/image/m8iwv3z5h/

as you can see, the m86 connector in that picture is USB and extends the usb to i think under the armrest or somewhere where you can plug an ipod into the factory radio. I'm pretty sure thats the blue connector i shows you at the beginning.

PS: the img load didn't work


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