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Well I noticed that Z1 has recently taken down their tech article on the swap, and concequently raised their price for the TT swaps and redesigned their swap page. So with the intention of doing the (300zx) world some good, I've fished it out of my browser cache, recreated it, and hosted it on my own site, where it is safe FOR EVER (or until I stop owning my own domain... not likely )

So enjoy, and any of you reading this for the first time, SUCK IT UP.

http://www.doubledesign.ca/Z1_TT_SWAP.pdf

This requires Adobe Reader, which is free by following this link: http://www.adobe.com/products/....html -Jared (freakonaleash1187)
skitz047 wrote:aww i can't read this post, it's a pdf :'(
http://www.doubledesign.ca/na_tt_swap/

Update: These are the two authoritative videos on the swap (done by 300zx guru Mike at MWS motorsports http://www.mwsmotorsports.com), anybody considering it should watch both of these several times before doing anything:

(RIGHT CLICK SAVE-AS)

Director's Cut with excruciating detail of the turbo swap process, Part 1 [181MB]http://www.zfilms.org/MWSMotor...1.wmv

Director's Cut with excruciating detail of the turbo swap process, Part 2 [232MB] http://www.zfilms.org/MWSMotor...2.wmv
Modified by tg at 11:01 AM 2/6/2009

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Mods, feel free to sticky it if you want, I have about 20 TB of bandwidth so I don't think it'll be an issue.
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It has been stickied. Thank you for hosting it.
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GOOD FIND! i heart you TG.

ps, are you planning on donig this swap youreself?
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skitz047 wrote:GOOD FIND! i heart you TG.

ps, are you planning on donig this swap youreself?
As soon as my 99 jdm 5sp transmission comes in i'll get started

Just researching some stuff about the clutch booster, apparently the NA's dont have one and I'm using an automatic tt front clip so I don't imagine it has one either!
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aww i can't read this post, it's a pdf :'(
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Adobe Reader is free. I edited the original post.
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skitz047 wrote:aww i can't read this post, it's a pdf :'(
http://www.doubledesign.ca/na_tt_swap/
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im 17 years old and i want to race and ive been looking into doing the TT conversion if i cant afford a TT z already....so i was wondering since u already work at a shop and do this kind of stuff all the time is there any way ur customers can pay you monthly or does it all have to be payed up front...i just need to know cus im buying my car in the next month or so
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300zxbegginer wrote:im 17 years old and i want to race and ive been looking into doing the TT conversion if i cant afford a TT z already....so i was wondering since u already work at a shop and do this kind of stuff all the time is there any way ur customers can pay you monthly or does it all have to be payed up front...i just need to know cus im buying my car in the next month or so
well if you can't afford a ttz then you definately can't afford the conversion seeing as it is 9000$ at z1motorsports.

Just for clarification, I don't work at z1.
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well i can afford one but i dont want one with like 150000 miles on it i would much rather have one with a newer motor and be able to pay monthly but i guess thanks for ur help
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my brother had the swap done and they dropped the motor in, waited 8-9 months for the intake hoses, messed with the wiring, adjusted the idle and messed with the cooling... Nothing was done with the brake system. What should be done if anything, other than the rotors and the calipers if any thing.no pics of turbo motor after install, but here is a linkhttp://www.cardomain.com/ride/285173
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Is there any other place that will do the tt swap for me besides Z1? I would try to do the swap at home like you guys, but unfortunately, my friends are all into mustangs and cameros, so I won't be getting any help from them.
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the price of the na to tt conversion being at $8750..plus matinence is it worth doing it if i have no clue how to?
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MWS motorsports also does swaps.
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thanx TG, i checked them out but they're also pretty pricey, so when it comes down best bang for my buck...i'd have to go with Z1, they're level of expertise is unbeatable and it's obvious by they're shop cars and customer cars alike!
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[quote="purple_ha"Z"e"]Is there any other place that will do the tt swap for me besides Z1? I would try to do the swap at home like you guys, but unfortunately, my friends are all into mustangs and cameros, so I won't be getting any help from them. [/quote]Their is a place in Benbrook off of loop 820 that did the swap for my bro, but I personally would never go their do to the problems that I had to fix for my brother. over heating, the idle... it just doesn't cut it for me. If you bring a car to a shop I think it needs to be fixed properly not half a$$ed. The car was in perfect running order when brought to them, we left with the swap running pretty *hitty if you ask me. About a year later after dropping the car off at the shop we picked it up in crappy condition. The shop charged almost double the quote that they gave us. Why you ask, THEY HAD PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes it was over 10g's but under 20g's I should have did it myself!
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RameyZ (Brett Ramey & Tim Davis) - they were kind enough to convert my NA - MUCH cheaper than Z1, btw and better quality work. They work out of the Cincinatti, Ohio area.

Look up SilverTwin (Tim) on CincyZ.com, TT.net or RoadGodZ.com and he can get you .

Cheers!
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Thanks zinistr, I'll definately look into it. btw, how much did they do it for,and where are they located?
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Anyone have experience with a swap shop in Texas?
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wow... this is awesome... very helpful.
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what is your price range
Manuel wrote:Anyone have experience with a swap shop in Texas?
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We have a more complete and accurate NA->TT conversion information here:http://upload.z1motorsports.co...n.pdf

It would be nice to replace the link at the top in your original post with this link. This link is in fact still on our website under the NA->TT conversion product listing.

Also, we aren't simply increasing the price of our NA to TT conversions we are simply adding more and more items to the standard conversion. We have to cover all our bases when performaing a swap.
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What if i was looking to buy a tt motor and 5 speed tranny jdm and such what would i need for that kind of swap?
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Trust me.. you need more than a TT motor/tranny combo. You also need TT:radiator, ECU, intercoolers, intercooler piping, most likely new turbos (jdm engine turbos are usually seized), TT or 9 jspec front bumper for air to get to intercoolers, new wiring harness and a bunch of other stuff. It's cheaper just to buy a TT!

-Evan (NC)
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Yep, I agree TT's are one of cheaper turbo cars out there right now you can purchase them for less than 10k in some cases...
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hey i got a question?i just bought a 300zx non turbo with a blown motor,but now im thinking on taking out the engine and tranny and putting a twin turbo on it? Would you know what i would have add or change to the car in order for me to do it the right way???
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Here are some great vids from MWS on swap shizzz.

http://www.mwsmotorsports.com/mwstv.htm
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Why does it cost that much, you can find a site that sells the engine for 2000 (including the tranny)

and labor for maybe 1000what else do you need.
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All of these questions have already been answered earlier in this post. There is ALOT of stuff needed to do the swap, not just an engine and transmission. You need a new ECU, Intercoolers, piping, wiring, possibly turbos, downpipes, etc... Its all been addressed. Answering the same questions gets tiring.
EQwhipD wrote:Trust me.. you need more than a TT motor/tranny combo. You also need TT:radiator, ECU, intercoolers, intercooler piping, most likely new turbos (jdm engine turbos are usually seized), TT or 9 jspec front bumper for air to get to intercoolers, new wiring harness and a bunch of other stuff. It's cheaper just to buy a TT!

-Evan (NC)
My North Carolinian brother has said it very nicely.
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