My DE-T build

[2FAS240]

hey whats up this is my build so far did the motor last winter, fixed the body during the summer, and am going to slap the turbo on this winter and do a few other things to her

--THE LIST--

-WHAT I GOT SO FAR
-aries 8.8.1 pistens
-crower rods
-stage 2 crower cams
-supertech dual valve springs
-arp main studs
-arp head studs
-mishimoto radiater & fan
-95lb precision turbo injectors
-fuelab pressure regulator
-turbo 240 fuel rail
-walbro 255
-SPEC stage 3 clutch

--THIS WINTER--
-GT35R
-AEM EMS
-JGS turbo manifold
-Excessive intake manifold
-Still up in the air as to which intercooler setup i'm going to run
-also still up in the air on the BOV and wastgate... OPINIONS WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED


the begining
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pullin it
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The GOODIESSSSS
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Built motor
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Goin in


damage from when i bought it

ALL PRETTY



what do you think opinions whatever you want to say good or bad i can take it

[480sx]

Tial 50mm BOV and a Tial wastegate, cant really go wrong with them.

Nice build though, what kind of hp are you looking to put down?

Car looks cleeaannnn. You could do a little more work on the bumper support and pull that headlight out a bit so its not pushed back.

You have some conflicting parts IMO. The log manifolds are great for under 450 hp, but after that they start to choke and restrict flow. Also, those excessive intake manifolds will seriously destroy your low and mid range power. You will actually lose a lot more power than you will gain along the curve in most applications. You will see some decent gains after 450-500 hp(top end only), but under that the stock manifold is better.

With that in mind, you have a high hp turbo. IMO i would go with a tubular manifold at the very least. Also, the stock intake manifold is actually very well designed. I was never a big fan of the excessive IM just seems like a hack job to me, but thats just my opinion.

Also im not a fan of the larger framed Garrett GT-R series at all. The Borg Warner S series beats them in pretty much every way, and is cheaper, and rebuildable. GT-R is the hype IMO, with the price tag to match. If you want some more information about the Borg Warner S series check the link in my sig, its a decent start for learning about the Borg Warner.

I want that toolbox...

[2FAS240]

haha yaaa i still gotta tween it a little bit but i'm up in minneapolis stationed at the AF base here for another 2 months so i gotta wait till i get back to chi town

ya i here you on the turbo manifold i would like to get the ams one but i never wanted to pay there price for one plus don't know if you can even get one anymore lol, and ya i know about the peak boost one to that has pretty hefty price tag to... which isn't the end of the world since i haven't went cheap on anything yet i don't plan on going cheap on anything either... so you would which manifold would you recommend then over the JGS i know on the sight that one says tested up to 450hp so i had doubts about it anyway

i'm looking to make like between 500-600hp i'm think lately that i should stick around 550 now so that i don't break as much stuff but its still a little up in the air... but i am shootin for over that 500 mark so maybe i should go with a different intake manny after all???

as for the turbo i will read about the borg warner i'm pretty new to the turbo scene so i'm still learnin just seemed like the 35R was one of the best turbos out there right now and lookin around i got pretty set on the gt3582R so i could run a low 11 high 10 quarter mile with a small show off the line only to help spool the turbo

haha i love my box some people diss it but seriously everyone has a red, blue, or black box how many have you ever seen with a lime green tool box !! 2200$$ brand new list for 4300

[xrproto07]

Nice build bro, looks like this is gonna be a monster when it's done.

[2FAS240]

thanks man thats the plan should be done middle of this winter i'm going to pull the motor in 2 months when i got back to chicago and then redo the engine bay and check the engine over and then finish the turbo set up i can't wait !!!!

[480sx]

If your going to consistently be making over 450-500 hp then yea, an intake manifold will help your top end. I still dont think any company to date makes an intake manifold that i would put on my car. The stock one really is well designed. For me its all about the curve, i would rather have power through out my RPM range than just a top end beast.

I will make you an AMS manifold if you wanted, serious offer. My friend is a professional fabricator who worked for a few years welding on nuclear reactors, really smart guy. Im going to have him make me a few copys of the AMS manifold and sell them. I own a AMS manifold, i was one of the last few who got in on that ill fated group buy from AMS. Took them 9 months to get us our manifolds when many of us paid in full, great company. They openly told us that we were put on the back burner because the 240 crowd was broke lol.

Dude if you want 550 hp go with a borg warner S258. Its got the spool up of a GT30 series with the top end HP capability close to a GT35. The GT35 can do about 630 hp, and the BW has hit 600. The s258 is running out of breath around 575 hp though, although it HAS put down 600 hp. At that level its pretty much out of its efficiency window. The s258 spools way faster than a GT35. I saw 7 psi with my s258 by 3100 rpms. Although if you plan on running more than 575 i would go with a larger turbo. S362 is a bangin turbo for 550-700 hp with the spool up of a GT35. The GT35 flows at about 65 lbs per min, while the s362 hits 70 lbs per min. The s258 will do about 50 lbs per min, however has the kind of spool up you want for a street car.

I wouldnt get stuck on the GT-R man. Do some research and read the things people are saying about the Borg Warner S series, you'll like what you see. Like i said if you want a pretty good crash course read the link in my sig.

[rsdans240sx]

Nice toolbox one of the mechanics at the trucking company I used to work for had the same one but she had pink heart stickers all over hers.

[KFL]

Looks good I would ditch the mishimoto radiator cap..its been know to not hold good pressure at times.

[2FAS240]

so 480sx i might be intrested in one of those mannys if you decide to make them but i gotta know how long before you can get them done and how much $$$ were talking... cause i want this baby to be done 3/4 the way through winter so i can get all the kinks worked out before spring

I read up on that BW S series man that is some nice S**t i don't think that s258 would be quite big enough for me so i would prolly have to go with that s362 but both of those looked awesomeeeeeeeeee ! whats the cheapest you have found that s362 so far ???

whats the best throttle body to go with ??


KFL -- thanks for the tip on the radiator cap i got a few others layin around so i'll throw one on

[480sx]

They are def going to be made before christmas. Plan on making a batch of three of them at once and see how they sell. As far as the price, the AMS manifold is basically a grand. Im not sure how much to charge yet because i havnt sat down and figured out how much time its going to take to make one, how much i need to pay my friend, and the price of stainless. However my friend is at the very least as skilled as the AMS guys, and im not cheaping out on the stainless or welding(argon back purging..).

The s362 is sick, smokes a GT35.

Shoot me an email man and we'll talk. Foureighty5@hotmail.com

[Montana240]

and if your lookin for that kind of power it probably would not hurt lookin at the stage 3 crower cams
just a thought they are a built for more upper end power.

although im pretty new to the turbo scene also

[GTR PrYdE]

I've seen only a few dyno sheets of the s258 bw turbo, and only one was nice, on a honda making around 500whp, but it didn't hit full boost til 5k+??
It's also not ball bearing, it's extended tip right?

The 35 is laggy, however forcedperformance has modified the wheel, and made a HTA35R, which on a 2.0 has spooled 20psi, 300wtq by 4k and has made 700whp dynojet... it's nice. expensive though, 1600-1700, or send your's in and for 400 they'll swap wheels..

something to consider...

[480sx]

Cant compare a 2.0 li to the ka like its an even comparison. Each engine has a different VE caused by more efficient heads, ect ect.

I hit 7 psi of boost before 3100 rpms on my Ka-T. Yea its extended tip, not BB.

[GTR PrYdE]

any track times, dyno?

or street runs for comparison?

i wanna know how it compares at that boost.

thanks

[2FAS240]

if you use stage 3 cams you have to get your head machined out cause the lobes will hit cylinder head... the stage 2's are really close but just clear it... the next head i might put them in but i'm going to try these out and see how streetable this car is going to be with what i got now

[480sx]

Ill get some dyno runs in in the next month or so. Im only going to be able to push 350 hp for a while, the limitations of my injector size and my tune. Eventually i plan on dropping in some 850's but that wont be for a while.

My comparisons are between my old motor with a 50 trim .63 ar and this s258. I can say the s258 pulls harder and has an extra 150 rpm spool up time.

[z.hunter1]

Love the build. Will definetly have to make it up to Chicago when you get it finished. It's goin to be mean.

[Spinn3r]

2FAS240: Sick build, when are you comming home ? in 2 mo? maybe you can give me a hand with mine.

[2FAS240]

thanks for the comments guys it boosts my moral lol i'll be back in right around the first of december i'll be there this weekend actually gotta drop of the 240 before it snows up here in minnesota !! hit me up if you need help though

[Spinn3r]

sick, check your email :D

[2FAS240]

where in chicago are you from ?

[2FAS240]

alright so what should i run for my MAF setup ??? i here N62 but then i here its only good for up to 500hp and that you have to go with air density setup... can someone straighten this out for me and give me an idea as to what i should get ??

[2FAS240]

i'm planning on making around 600hp

[480sx]

Since your going with AEM EMS just use a MAP setup.

[2FAS240]

what else would i need for that then ?

[2FAS240]

its been a while but i finally got time to finish her up... so heres the parts that came in this week so far... and then by the end of this week or monday i should have my gt3582r twinscroll, full-race manifold and downpipe !

[motoman399]

and what wastegate and bov are you running. that is a great setup. im pretty jealous

[2FAS240]

haha thanks man it cost me a pretty penny so far i'm going to be running a Tial 44m Wastegate with a 0.7 bar spring, and a Tial Q BOV with a 11psi spring... i think those are 2 of the 4 things that i still need to pick up might order both of them today though

[2FAS240]

sucks all tials stuff is backordered for 2 weeks and everyone is out of stock!!!

does anyone have any good prefferences on exhaust ?? i just planned on getting the Apexi N-1 but never hurts to get some opinions!

[nelson8708]

i'd say get an ebay exhaust. Kinda hard to screw that part up and you can get them for around 120$ shipped. Kick a$$ build though

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ories

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ories

-Nelson