MotorTrend Aug. 2007 THE KING IS DEAD! HOW INFINITI’S G37 BEAT BMW’s 335i COUPE!

Post by **tux2k47** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:08 am

Hey Guys,

Due to an embargo placed by Motor Trend, I was required to keep this internal until Monday, June 25th. We (Infiniti) got this sent to us by Motor Trend a few weeks ago.

Attached is the cover and article of the Aug. 2007 issue of Motor Trend for the G37 Coupe that is suppose to hit news stands this week!

COVER PAGE:

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ARTICLE PAGES:

G37 Article Page 1

G37 Article Page 2

G37 Article Page 3

G37 Article Page 4

----------------------------------Great news for the G37 Coupe Enjoy!!!

Tux
Modified by tux2k47 at 3:06 PM 6/25/2007

Post by **G_whizz** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:13 am

WOW!! Now that's what I call introducing yourself to the NICO crowd!!

Very cool

Thanks for sharing and glad to have you on board!!

Post by **tux2k47** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:17 am

G_Whizz,

Glad to help . I figured since it is public now why let you guys wait for someone to grab copy of the magazine and scan them in when Motor Trend sent us high-res pics!

Enjoy!

Joe

Post by **soul_hfk** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:20 am

about time them bimmer lovers get there chair pulled from under them oh sorry and thz for the post tux and welcome

Post by **zozoka1212** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:22 am

Thanx bro and welcome on the board

Niiiicccccceeee

zozoka

Post by **zozoka1212** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:30 am

how come it is not faster than the 2007 sedan. Well thesee just estimates I guess I am not sure. What do you think? 0-60 5.4 sec. Bigger engine more ponies less weight?

Zozoka

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:49 am

Thanks Joe - We'll make good use of the info.

Glad to have you aboard, looking forward to more goodies in the future.

Post by **dmkozak** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:30 am

Anyone know how I should resize them to print on a 8.5 x 11 piece of paper? Thanks.

Post by **C-Kwik** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:51 am

Nice. But I'd love to see how they compare with manual trannies.

Boy did they pork up the G37 coupe though.

Post by **joe603** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:59 am

Finally we can stick it to the Bimmers! hehhehe

Thanks for the advanced notice!

Post by **audtatious** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:10 am

dmkozak wrote:Anyone know how I should resize them to print on a 8.5 x 11 piece of paper? Thanks.

You should have a "scale to fit" check box for printing

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:05 am

This is already causing quite the stink on the E90 forums...

There's a lot of whining, claiming the test was "rigged".

Post by **G_whizz** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:26 am

LOL...I figured it would.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/...t=g37

I'm soooo tempted to become a Member there...anyone got a really big wooden spoon and some salt

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:53 am

I've been giggling at this one:

"...isnt it just a tad unfair to have a car supplied by the competition ???"

They went to a damn dealership and got the car... So, it's the same car a CONSUMER would have gotten.

By the way: The trans cooler issue is a huge one, and Infiniti has been putting transmission coolers on their cars since the early 90's.

I'll trade a POS "iDrive" system for a functionally-superior transmission anyday.

Post by **tux2k47** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:57 am

AZ,

Thanks for hosting the images!

Tux

Post by **G_whizz** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:00 am

Firstly Greg...you are not allowed to use the word "Giggle" ever again

LOL...

Geez...did ya check out the views counter on this thread?? Over 1900 in a few hours

And yup...that cooling issue sure came back to bite them in the butt

A Big +1 for tux2k47 (Joe) for this!!!

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:02 am

I'm also enjoying seeing the loudmouthed "3XTR3M3" make an arse of himself in front of all his friends...

Claiming he knows all about Infiniti platforms and how they're all cross-based with Nissan.

Props to GregL, R1R and the Dentist ( ) for straightening him out.

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:03 am

tux2k47 wrote:AZ,

Thanks for hosting the images!

Tux

Glad to help - If you'd like, you can pull the other ones off so as not to cause more headaches for ImageShack ...

p.s. Email me when you get a chance.

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:46 am

so lets recap.

the infiniti has more power. stock anyway.the infiniti is heavier.the infiniti is slower.the infiniti is bigger, but has less interior room.the infiniti gets worse gas mileage.the infiniti is worse for the environment.the infiniti has a slightly better warranty, but does not come with bmw's full maintainence package that covers everything but tires till 50k miles.

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:46 am

oh and the bmw oil cooler thing, only auto's came without the oil cooler, and bmw is retrofitting them on for customers who bring thier cars in.

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:53 am

Ask BMW *why* they had to offer the "full maintenance package"....

...and ask my buddy (new 335 owner) why he was driving a tired 318ti as a loaner last time his was in for service... I get to drive an 07 Sedan.

Post by **maxnix** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:59 am

Wonder how those 15K OCI will affect the longevity of that undersquare engine? Funny no one pays attention to that anymore.

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:00 pm

but long and short, numbers dont lie, the bmw beat it in every competition, except for the car overheated, caused by a problem bmw is fixing.

the number of cars that are actually lacking an oil cooler is small, infiniti knows this and imho played that card.

if you want to say the infinit is a good car dollar for dollar, then yes, but beats it, absolutely not.
Modified by ca18datsun510 at 2:02 PM 6/26/2007

Post by **smokedhen** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:04 pm

thank you for the article!!!

Post by **dmkozak** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:43 pm

ca18datsun510 wrote:except for the car overheated, caused by a problem bmw is fixing.

the number of cars that are actually lacking an oil cooler is small,

I do not believe this is entirely accurate. Only cars with the Sport Package get the oil cooler. Originally, it was only manual trans cars with the Sport Package got the oil cooler. Then, earlier this year, the standard oil cooler was extended to auto trans with Sport Package. That is not a small number of cars lacking the oil cooler. None of the non-Sport Package cars have the oil cooler.

Also, BMW has not issued a recall to retrofit oil coolers to all 335i's. There is no official policy to retrofit oil coolers at no cost to the owner. Only auto trans Sport Package owners can get a retrofit, and they have to ask. And, then, they have to demand, sometimes long and hard, to have BMWNA pick up the cost and supply them with a free loaner.

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:52 pm

non sport package also have a lower redline, etc, and produce less heat.

i should have mentioned the sportpackage. my oversight, but it seems like all the compartisons have been against sports.

as far as having difficulty getting bmw to do it, i disagree.

also, general if you bought your car new at the dealership, you will get a loaner. and if there are no bmw vehicles, you will get a rental, at not cost to you.

all dealerships are different, you cant compare one to the next. you can have one dealership that has 30 3 series for loan, and 30 x3's, and they will run out. all brand new cars.

then you can have a lower volume dealer that has 10 brand new loaner, and at thier choice they take in lease return, and used cars and use them for loaners.

just cuase one person got a 318ti, and one got a 07 infiniti sedan, doesnt mean that somewhere else someone got a 07 328, and someone else got a 95 g20.

aside from that, lets wate to see the problems that pop up with the new g.

Post by **gniknave** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:06 pm

I drove a 335i as a demo for 2 weeks. It's probably the best overall car I've ever driven. Now I really can't wait to drive a G37 because I just can't imagine someone topping that 335i for less money.

However that same demo I drove ended up in the shop a month later (after I turned it in) for a head gasket replacement. As amazing as the 335i is, it's going to make the BMW faithful either hold off on buying a 335i until they fix the oil cooling issue, or it's going to make them test drive a G37 just to see if they're going to like it as much as Motortrend suggests. BMW has a lot of pressure on them right now. The 335i is selling like hotcakes, but that's about to slow down a bit thanks to this article. Props to Infiniti for getting it right (again). Also, props to Infiniti for finally beginning to accomplish what they set out to be when they first opened their doors back in 1990... They're finally becoming that BMW beater. They beat out the 5 Series with the M, now they've beat out the 335i coupe with the G37 coupe. I wish they'd take out that damned X3. Damn I hate that thing.

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:11 pm

but the point is, they didnt beat the 335 in any hard factual way.

they beat it based on the opinions of motor trend. woopty doo.

i love playing devils advocate.

Post by **gniknave** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:33 pm

ca18datsun510 wrote:as far as having difficulty getting bmw to do it, i disagree.

also, general if you bought your car new at the dealership, you will get a loaner. and if there are no bmw vehicles, you will get a rental, at not cost to you.

all dealerships are different, you cant compare one to the next. you can have one dealership that has 30 3 series for loan, and 30 x3's, and they will run out. all brand new cars.

then you can have a lower volume dealer that has 10 brand new loaner, and at thier choice they take in lease return, and used cars and use them for loaners.

just cuase one person got a 318ti, and one got a 07 infiniti sedan, doesnt mean that somewhere else someone got a 07 328, and someone else got a 95 g20.

BMW doesn't have a loaner car requirement for it's dealers. They give the dealers an option of leasing vehicles from BMW USA for 1-2 years, and then they allow the dealer to sell them as a Certified BMW on their lot once the car is retired from the loaner program. The dealers actually get a kickback for having cars in the loaner program, which is why most of them do it. The kicker is, most BMW dealers will only loan the car out for certain services or if the car is under warranty. After warranty, you might be on your own.

As for Infiniti, it's part of the TOE (Total Ownership Experience) to expect a loaner vehicle at the time of any prearranged service visit. Infiniti of America requires it's dealers to lease a fleet (number depending on the size of the dealer) of loaner vehicles from Infiniti. IIRC those leases last 18 months to 2 years at which time the dealer can choose to keep a select number, and the rest go back to Infiniti corporate for who knows what. Infiniti also says the loaner car is available for the duration of warranty, but almost all of the dealers will let you have a loaner no matter how old your car is as long as it's an Infiniti. They see it as a way of getting repeat buyers [That part was actually in my TOE training book when I was working there].

Some smaller or less profitable BMW dealers are known to buy loaner cars instead of leasing them. Which is probably the case with the dealer that Greg's friend went to and ended up driving a 318i. You are NOT going to see that at an Infiniti dealer. If you do, report it and the Regional Manager will probably be down within a few hours to fix that problem.

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:44 pm

if you say so.

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