More issues - more info coming soon.

A state titled car seized. An individual from another Skyline forum.

I assumed something along these lines, I wondered why they shut their site down.

The short story is that the owner of the forum was visited by ICE and DMV. Things are playing out over the last few days.

It's comforting to know that in our dangerous world our benevolent government machine is expending resources protecting us from invading Japanese cars.

Perhaps if all the illegals streaming across our border were packed in Skylines we might actually be able to do something about it.

BAM!!!

What A Shame.... Government?? Define Government.

gov·ern·ment
   /ˈgʌvərnmənt, ‐ərmənt/ Show Spelled[guhv-ern-muhnt, ‐er-muhnt] Show IPA
–noun
1. the political direction and control exercised over the actions of the members, citizens, or inhabitants of communities, societies, and states; direction of the affairs of a state, community, etc.; political administration: Government is necessary to the existence of civilized society.
2. the form or system of rule by which a state, community, etc., is governed: monarchical government; episcopal government.
3. the governing body of persons in a state, community, etc.; administration.
4. a branch or service of the supreme authority of a state or nation, taken as representing the whole: a dam built by the government.
5. (in some parliamentary systems, as that of the United Kingdom)
a. the particular group of persons forming the cabinet at any given time: The Prime Minister has formed a new government.
b. the parliament along with the cabinet: The government has fallen.
6. direction; control; management; rule: the government of one's conduct.
7. a district governed; province.
8. political science.
9. Grammar . the established usage that requires that one word in a sentence should cause another to be of a particular form: the government of the verb by its subject.
10. THE MAN,YO!
11. In ur garage, stealin ur skylinez!

Hide you skys, hide you lines, hide you skys, hide you lines
cuz they stealin em all up out here...

themadscientist wrote:Perhaps if all the illegals streaming across our border were packed in Skylines we might actually be able to do something about it.

Wow we haven't found a Osama Bin Laden in 10 years but we'll make damn sure we will find every skyline out?!

build an underground bunker for your skyline.

Replace "iraq" with "Skyline enthusiast's garage"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVkYe8tNZX4[/youtube]

they break into your garage, trying to steal yo ride, so you need to hide yo r 33, hide yo r 34, and hide your silvias, cause they crushing every car up in here

I dont understand why the government is so concerned with our vehicles when their tanks use more gas and have worse emissions than our sports cars.

Dear Govt,
Stop wasting money on taking our cars and chronic away and let us keep our hobbies and funny time. If i want to drive my Z or if you want to drive your skylines on the weekends or even daily, we should be able to do so.
With passion,
Niko

They are an easy target.

Some government agencies have a big budget and need to show some results for what they are doing.

Its easy to hunt down cars.

There was just a fairly large report from the GAO regarding federal spending and oversight.

Dear government, F*** OFF and STOP WASTING OUR F*****G MONEY.

IS THIS COMMUNICATION EFFECTIVE ENOUGH FOR YOU?

thanks for all the support guys and also you guys can join the figth too...

AZhitman wrote:What can YOU do to help?

First: GET INVOLVED. Find out what YOUR state's legislators think of this issue.

Second: join us at SEMA's Action Network: SEMA Action Network - Auto enthusiasts protecting our hobby :: Join
NICOclub has been a proud member for nearly 8 years, and they're the ONLY organization that's actively defending our rights as automobile enthusiasts.

Third: Write letters to your local elected officials, and those in Washington. Let them know that we do NOT support their wasting taxpayer money chasing down our fellow law-abiding automotive enthusiasts.

gzrecoil wrote:Dear government, F*** OFF and STOP WASTING OUR F*****G MONEY.

IS THIS COMMUNICATION EFFECTIVE ENOUGH FOR YOU?

Now, send that to your local elected officials. Hold them accountable. Ask them if they believe this is an effective use of taxpayer funds, especially in these tough economic times.

Let them know we're watching. Learn who IS and who IS NOT your friend. And then get off your asses and VOTE.

AZhitman wrote: Let them know we're watching. Learn who IS and who IS NOT your friend. And then get off your asses and VOTE.

So true. I couldn't have said it better myself.

If you want change, be active in your community. It's a democracy, the government gets their money and support from us, if we don't like something, don't post it on the forum, Go out there and tell them! Well post it on the forum too so more of us that feel the same way can make a difference together.

I'll try my best to put my little political skills to the test and lets make something happen people. It's not just our money and our hobbies... It's our Cars! if you are passionate about your car like I am about mine, it doesnt make a difference, Honda, Toyota, even Kia. These skylines and their owners need our support.

I'm thinking we need a simple form letter (one that just gives a brief history and summary of the problem and its current status) that people can edit / adjust / tweak and send to their local elected officials.

I just saw the article about this over on Jalopnik. Its a pretty sad state of affairs when we have no money to pay teachers or cops, but we can spend money tracking down the owners of "illicit" cars... Our government really needs to get their priorities straight.

AZhitman wrote:I'm thinking we need a simple form letter (one that just gives a brief history and summary of the problem and its current status) that people can edit / adjust / tweak and send to their local elected officials.

Why? All that will happen with them is they will end up stacked near the toilet.

There is only one way to fight this, and its big stacks of cash. Big stacks. Not 300 people throw in $20 kind of cash. Its every single person that owns one of these cars, sending in $100-$200-$500 a month to a lobbyist, and a lawyer to go and try and promote their cause.

Anything less is just a waste of time. Lawyers aren't cheap. Getting laws changed ain't cheap.

People sound like the 2nd grade class president campaign pitches -"more naps for everyone" "every friday off"... blah blah blah. We are going to do this, we are going to do that.

12 years I have heard this stuff, NO one ever follows though. I was at crash testing once when I was at Motorex, and I was preparing another car for crash testing when the final cars got bond released. People have talked since then about doing it that way, no one follows though.

I've done it, I've been thought it. I have thought about it. Less than a month, everyone will have forgotten. Every other state titled car owner will think that this doesn't apply to them.

...and, with every last bit of well-deserved respect, you're not the only one who has been in the community for over a decade. I'm no stranger to lobbying or effecting legislative changes.

The fundamental flaw has been a lack of organization and a lack of cohesiveness. Nissan people haven't worked with Mazda people, who haven't worked with Porsche people, who won't work with Subaru people...

I suppose while some people say, "Why", my attitude is "why not?" If time is wasted, so be it.

Someone brought up another old point. I forget about it at times, even though I just put a car in for it - Show or Display.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_959

The "Gates 959" is an infamous car[7], one of the Porsche 959s built in the mid-eighties, imported by Bill Gates to the United States in 1987. Gates' fellow Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen imported another one, as did Porsche collector Jerry Seinfeld. These cars had not been approved by regulators and had no Department of Transportation‎ and Environmental Protection Agency‎ approval. The "Gates 959" was stored for 13 years by the Customs Service at the Port of Seattle, until regulations were changed to allow "Autos of Interest" to be imported with severe limitations on their use[7]. Gates and Allen both helped pass the "Show and Display" law[7][8].


It took Bill Gates and Paul Allen 13 years, and their money to make a change. Its kind of deflating for anyone else.

I'm doing my best to shock these guys into real action. Hopefully, they can get some real money, get a real lawyer, and make a real fight.

If you don't fight, you lose.

Canada sounds nice.

Ni$$@n240 wrote:Canada sounds nice.

I was looking online on how to apply for citizenship two days ago. I'm down...

Kinda off abit, my brother and I had a good laugh. Looking at some new magazines there's was two that caught our attention. 1. A good ol'american mag with a story on more private citizens cars being stolen by the gov't. The other a mag printed in the UK. With a story on the top cars to own before you die. #1 car on their list, Nissan Skyline GTR! lol! To change things gotta band together like sema has!

All your Skylines are belong to them. I admire the sentiment, but I do not share the belief that it will change a damned thing.

themadscientist wrote:All your Skylines are belong to them. I admire the sentiment, but I do not share the belief that it will change a damned thing.

Money can get some movement. People ask how they can help, and Benjamin Franklins, not George Washingtons will start to help some movement.

I think it will be the same as the rest, big start, no middle, and a sad ending.

We don't fold that kind of bank. The people you are up against don't even bother to carry cash. I wish you luck, but don't expect any progress.