looking for pix of 4300k HID headlights specifically light projected on the road

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I'm looking to get more light out of my projectors retrofitted with HIDS and I have found out that to get more light, I need to go from 6000k to 4300k bulbs and so I wanted to see some pictures of people that have the 4300k setup and I am specifically looking for pictures of the amount of light projected onto the ground. I also will be using d2s bulbs instead of d2rs. Thanks


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Thanks man. Wish he would have had some night shots . I have a very nice cut off now in the projectors, that won't change with the brighter bulbs will they. I think that's kind of a dumb question now that I think about it, but I don't really want a blob of light

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sorry....just bumping to see if anyone else has any pix

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Cutoff point will stay the same. If you're running 6000k, I wouldn't change for the 4300k. It's like going back to stock bulbs.

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The color of the 4300k is a little less blue than the 6000k but they do put out a little more light. Though, with either one you're still putting out a lot more light than standard halogens so you should be able to see better with either one.

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Sunlitsand... Going from the D2R to the D2S will not give you the results you desire. You will have stray streaking that will look like you tried to retrofit HIDs.

Also, no matter what the color temperature (K), light output does not change. You would have to go to 50w ballast and 50w bulb for more output. The D2R you have in there has a coating called "blacktop" in an orientation that you need to maintain your optical prescription. If you want more light, get some auxillary HID lamps from Cibie, Hella, or your choice.

You could replace your high beams with Cessna (aircraft) landing gear lights and completely blind anyone if you really want some light on the road. We did that in the lab and one of the guys couldnt see for 30 min!

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I would not be going from d2r to d2s. I already have d2s bulbs now since I have the retrofitted projectors with HIDs and I just want to get more light out of them. I don't mind if the color is less the blue, I would rather just have more light on the road. Bean says going to 4300k would be like going back to stock....but I really don't have a stock for my lights. Mtcookson says the 4300k will give out a little bit more light. We need to come to a consensus guys

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Well it really depends on what projectors you are using. The color temp will help with light output but will not affect cutoff which means the total area covered by light will not change. What projectors are you using? Please don't tell me you're using the ones that came in those ebay housings....

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well you know how crappy the ebay projectors are just as much as me, but these have been retrofitted with 6000k HIDS and I know even with having a retrofit with HIDs, they aren't as bright as normal HIDs (at least I would think so), but I know they can get brighter some how

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I used to have some night ones but I don't know where they went. I'll try and get some more soon.

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Simmsled wrote:Also, no matter what the color temperature (K), light output does not change. You would have to go to 50w ballast and 50w bulb for more output. The D2R you have in there has a coating called "blacktop" in an orientation that you need to maintain your optical prescription. If you want more light, get some auxillary HID lamps from Cibie, Hella, or your choice.
That's weird, it seems everywhere I read they say with HID's the higher in color you go, the light output decreases slightly.

If not though, we need to change around the Lighting info article - zerothread/212194

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Unless Matt (simmsled) corrects me......

4300k has higher lumens than 6000k, thus they technically have more light. Since I went from the factory Maxima 4150k HID's to 6000k HID's I technically have less lumens. What I have noticed is that the 6000k color range does better at illuminating the road and signs than the 4150k factory bulbs did. I am quite happy with them. Of course, I have a D2R instead of a D2S configuration.

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NSR A32 wrote:I used to have some night ones but I don't know where they went. I'll try and get some more soon.
Thank you

and thanks for all your help guys

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SunLitSandMax00SE wrote:well you know how crappy the ebay projectors are just as much as me, but these have been retrofitted with 6000k HIDS and I know even with having a retrofit with HIDs, they aren't as bright as normal HIDs (at least I would think so), but I know they can get brighter some how
Well before getting new bulbs, I highly suggest putting different projectors in there...the ebay ones are horrible in terms of light output and they are not made for HIDs. Go to http://www.hidplanet.com for some research and I promise you it will be a worthwhile mod if you want to see at night.

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The amount of lumens is not even worth talking about because you are still dealing with a 35w source with a 35w ballast. For a sustained lit arc thru xenon gas you need 85v to bring the salts to the plasma state within the capsule. Given the same amount of energy, the light output will only change in color if the chemistry of the salts (plasma when energized) is altered, not intensity. So you can argue all you want about Lumens, but if your optics are unable to place the light on the road... you will have stray light and not focused usable light on the road. If you want more light, get the aftermarket 50w bulb and 50w ballast that is designed for the proper geometry.

Now, 6000k can appear to be brighter because your eye could be more sensitive to the reflections at that color temperature. The human eye is a mysterious thing. BUT... on a photometer (light intensity meter)... you will not get more output (lumens) by just changing the bulb.

If you need some projectors, let me know. We cant have Nico bretheren rolling ebay projectors. Leave those for the 'not stale metal mixture' guys.

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Simmsled wrote:The amount of lumens is not even worth talking about because you are still dealing with a 35w source with a 35w ballast. For a sustained lit arc thru xenon gas you need 85v to bring the salts to the plasma state within the capsule. Given the same amount of energy, the light output will only change in color if the chemistry of the salts (plasma when energized) is altered, not intensity. So you can argue all you want about Lumens, but if your optics are unable to place the light on the road... you will have stray light and not focused usable light on the road. If you want more light, get the aftermarket 50w bulb and 50w ballast that is designed for the proper geometry.

Now, 6000k can appear to be brighter because your eye could be more sensitive to the reflections at that color temperature. The human eye is a mysterious thing. BUT... on a photometer (light intensity meter)... you will not get more output (lumens) by just changing the bulb.

If you need some projectors, let me know. We cant have Nico bretheren rolling ebay projectors. Leave those for the 'not stale metal mixture' guys.
I got the ****ty ebay projectors for my 01 I30 and they suck balls. I need some new ones any suggestions or can you hook them up?

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Here's my stock HID's which are 4300k



With the H3 yellow fogs on:

Front shot:

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Blazn... take a pic of what you got. I will let you know what I have that will fit. There are a couple ways to go. I have LHD euro spec, LHD usa spec, RHD japan spec, RHD euro spec, and LHD bi-function usa. Sorry, no Halogens. hehe.

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I HAVE AN 01 I30 WITH THE CRAPPY EBAY HALO PROJECTORS. I DONT HAVE A CAMERA SO IF YOU REALLY NEED A PIC I WILL HAVE TO GET A CAMERA FORM A BUDDY.

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Yo, i know they arn't 4300, but this might help somehow... mine are 10000k

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Here the 4300k output through 350Z projectors I retro in my 86 300ZXT.

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You can compare the light output above to my 6000k headlights (this pic is headlight only, no fogs) which is more of a white-blue on the road


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blazncypher wrote:
I got the ****ty ebay projectors for my 01 I30 and they suck balls. I need some new ones any suggestions or can you hook them up?
Take the projectors off and retro some real HID projectors. I was going to buy ebay lights for my 02 I35 and swap the projector with some TSX or equivalent. I like the black housing and halos. If anyone on the board has some factory I35 light they want to sell, please let me know or if anyone want to sell their ebay lights. I might do a projector retro on them and use some BMW angel eyes.

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Man, I have the
audtatious wrote:You can compare the light output above to my 6000k headlights (this pic is headlight only, no fogs) which is more of a white-blue on the road
Man, I have 6000k Hids and they aren't even close to as bright as that .

I am leaning towards buying 4300k bulbs and hoping that will help.....hoping

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You should see the road when I have my fogs on

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audtatious wrote:You should see the road when I have my fogs on
don't make me jealous jerk, you're not helping haha

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HID fogs are relatively easy to do........Get'er dun!


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well I ordered the 4300k ds2 bulbs so we'll see what happens. Now I just have to figure out how to get the bulbs that are in the projectors out


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