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Hey, I'm kinda new to the forum and I was just wondering what kinda wheels show the best performance with what specs(diameter, offset, weight, etc.) and which brand or specific rims. I'm looking to go staggered and preferably under 19 lbs. because i believe that's the weight of the stock rims. Not sure if that's with the tire or w/o. Pictures would be nice too:D & thanks in advance.


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First off, welcome to NICO!

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That button is your friend. There are so many wheel options out there that it's not even funny. A lot of the aftermarket wheel selections are just going to boil down to what you want in a wheel. Are you wanting a wheel for track use, or daily driving? Are you just trying to look nice, or are you concerned about performance/ safety on the track?

Did I make my point yet? A "rim" is a piece of a wheel. Without the barrel and the face/spokes, you have a round piece of metal that you can't do anything with.

Just do some research, and choose what you like. Look up prices online. For specs and fitment looks, try out http://www.rimtuck.com/. Good site where people post up their specs and pictures, searchable by all kinds of parameters.

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Oh okay. Thanks dude. And im mainly looking for performance wheels for daily driving.

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IMHO, avoid Rimtuck, because it shows a bunch of ill-fitting, jammed up in there wheels.

Again, IMHO, unless you want the staggeredness for looks, your best bet for lightweight and optimum performance will be a 17x9" +35mm wheel on all four corners. Neutral handling, the ability to rotate and you can run 275 section tires all around.

Stock wheels weigh about 17lbs, IIRC. For a 17"x9" wheel anything around 20lbs is light weight. Check out Wheelweights.net for more info. Tires weigh about 23lbs+ depending on size, so the stock wheel weight I listed is just for the wheel.

For staggered lightweight wheels, you're looking at spending a good amount of money, like around $2500+ for a set of four, not including tires.

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If i were to get 275s in the front, wouldnt it stick out the fenders?

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Double-A wrote:If i were to get 275s in the front, wouldnt it stick out the fenders?
depends on the off set. not with a 9" +35mm wheel.

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BigTDogg (MA) wrote:
Double-A wrote:If i were to get 275s in the front, wouldnt it stick out the fenders?
depends on the off set. not with a 9" +35mm wheel.
ohhh okay. Thanks.When would you need to use spacers?

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Double-A wrote:
BigTDogg (MA) wrote:
depends on the off set. not with a 9" +35mm wheel.
ohhh okay. Thanks.When would you need to use spacers?
When you don't search :facepalm:

Spacers decrease the offset.

+40mm with a 10mm spacer has an effective offset of +30mm.

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When you don't search :facepalm:

Spacers decrease the offset.

+40mm with a 10mm spacer has an effective offset of +30mm.[/quote]

Ohh alright. I just thought i'd ask since i'm on here anyways. Thanks though. I appreciate it.

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BigTDogg (MA) wrote:IMHO, avoid Rimtuck,
I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with this statement.

OP, it can't hurt to take a look at as many setups as possible so that you can make your own decision on what kind of wheel/tire fitment you want for yourself. Educate yourself on the subject so you can make your own decision.

Rimtuck is just a tool for understanding & achieving a certain style. How you use that tool is up to you. Don't be so quick to just accept someone's word as the only way to do a certain thing.

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Double-A wrote:Ohh alright. I just thought i'd ask since i'm on here anyways. Thanks though. I appreciate it.
If you're going to do spacers, you'll need longer wheel studs. Check out SPLparts.com for ARP studs. Last freebee :)

Definitely search though, there's tons of information on here.

Be aware that many of the set ups you see on Rimtuck will require modification to your fenders.

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BigTDogg (MA) wrote:
Double-A wrote:Ohh alright. I just thought i'd ask since i'm on here anyways. Thanks though. I appreciate it.
If you're going to do spacers, you'll need longer wheel studs. Check out SPLparts.com for ARP studs. Last freebee :)

Definitely search though, there's tons of information on here.

Be aware that many of the set ups you see on Rimtuck will require modification to your fenders.
Haha thanks. Didnt really find what I was looking for on Rimtuck but I found some wheels I might be interested in. They're the Enkei RPF1s. They look pretty nice, lightweight, and they have them in the size I want(17x9 +35).

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Double-A wrote:Haha thanks. Didnt really find what I was looking for on Rimtuck but I found some wheels I might be interested in. They're the Enkei RPF1s. They look pretty nice, lightweight, and they have them in the size I want(17x9 +35).
The force is strong with this one... :dblthumb:

I'm looking at those wheels (different sizes) for my DD next spring.

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BigTDogg (MA) wrote:
Double-A wrote:Haha thanks. Didnt really find what I was looking for on Rimtuck but I found some wheels I might be interested in. They're the Enkei RPF1s. They look pretty nice, lightweight, and they have them in the size I want(17x9 +35).
The force is strong with this one... :dblthumb:

I'm looking at those wheels (different sizes) for my DD next spring.
Oh, Niice. What do you use as your DD?

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Double-A wrote:
BigTDogg (MA) wrote:The force is strong with this one... :dblthumb:

I'm looking at those wheels (different sizes) for my DD next spring.
Oh, Niice. What do you use as your DD?

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2005 Legacy GT 5-Speed Wagon. If I can find the RPF1 in 5x100, 17x7.5 or 8" with a +45mm off set in gold then I'll get those, otherwise I'll probably be looking at the PF01 in Silver:

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The 17x7.5 is only 16.8lbs.

Ideally I'm looking for a set of 2004 WRX STI BBS wheels. 17x7 with perfect offsets, forged, just nice super light and strong wheels. They still command about $900 a set though. Not sure on whether I'd do gold, silver or a custom PC like a gunmetal or black chrome. Not sure if gold may be too flashy. I'm not buying till next spring though.

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Double-A wrote:Haha thanks. Didnt really find what I was looking for on Rimtuck but I found some wheels I might be interested in. They're the Enkei RPF1s. They look pretty nice, lightweight, and they have them in the size I want(17x9 +35).
I guess that 17x10 with 275 rubber all around RPF1 setup wasn't to your liking. Oh well. Good luck, new guy.

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simmode1 wrote:
Double-A wrote:Haha thanks. Didnt really find what I was looking for on Rimtuck but I found some wheels I might be interested in. They're the Enkei RPF1s. They look pretty nice, lightweight, and they have them in the size I want(17x9 +35).
I guess that 17x10 with 275 rubber all around RPF1 setup wasn't to your liking. Oh well. Good luck, new guy.
With no mods? What off set?

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Those pf01s don't look too bad either.


17x10s w/ the 275s are nice but my main goal is performance. The 17x9s are lighter and will still look good.

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I'm not pro or anything, but I found a set of GORGEOUS wheels on EBAY for $1300. They're 18x8.5" +45mm Gram Lights. They weigh about 18lb and with a set of yoks I calculated about 8-10 lbs lost over stock. I think the guy listed another set after the set I bought. Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in.

Got a picture, but not sure how to post... :gotme

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BigTDogg (MA) wrote:
simmode1 wrote: I guess that 17x10 with 275 rubber all around RPF1 setup wasn't to your liking. Oh well. Good luck, new guy.
With no mods? What off set?
Very few mods. Roll and slight pull, fender bracket hammered flat, bumper by fender arch trimmed. +15 effective. Not a harsh modification set at all, and looks really good.

http://www.rimtuck.com/setup.php?id=231

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Jehtte wrote:I'm not pro or anything, but I found a set of GORGEOUS wheels on EBAY for $1300. They're 18x8.5" +45mm Gram Lights. They weigh about 18lb and with a set of yoks I calculated about 8-10 lbs lost over stock. I think the guy listed another set after the set I bought. Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in.

Got a picture, but not sure how to post... :gotme
Those are also stock sizes. If I am upgrading wheels, I'm going to upgrade wheels. Don't get me wrong, Gram Lights are beautiful. I just want something more aggressive.

As far as posting images, here is the official how-to thread:

how-to-post-pictures-using-photobucket-t521110.html

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Ah, my bad. My car was N/A so for me 8.5 was an upgrade, forgot TTs already run that. :gotme

Lets see if this works...
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Ace2cool: That actually looks really good. I might consider that also.


Jehtte: Those rims are okay. I just dont think they look right on the Zs. I see them more on sentras because it has 5 really skinny spokes.

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Jehtte, nice wheels indeed. With longer wheel studs you could run a 20mm to 25mm spacer, as a +45mm off set with an 8.5" wheel is kinda ridiculous. My 8.5" +33mm fronts are sunk as hell, I can't imagine what a +45mm looks like.

Any weight you saved was in the tires, as OEM NA wheels weigh in at about 16lbs. I tried searching for the exact weight, to no avail. I do know they are feather light, which is why many run four TT rears as a track set up.

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Ace2cool wrote:Very few mods. Roll and slight pull, fender bracket hammered flat, bumper by fender arch trimmed. +15 effective. Not a harsh modification set at all, and looks really good.
Not worth it for me as there are plenty of other options to fit that much meat with no modifications. But to each their own.

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^^^Understood. But for the OP's benefit, that setup was really more about not only fitting the desired amount of rubber & wheel, but also achieving a certain relation of the curvature of the tire's sidewall to the fender to go for flush fitment. Certainly, it isn't for everybody. Just an example worth noting in case it draws someone's interest.

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18x9+30 with a 255/40/18 all around. DONE.

And make sure that's a really good, quality 255. No Nexens, Federals or Sumitomos here.

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Or continental crosscontact.

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Ace2cool wrote:Or continental crosscontact.
LOL, isn't that a SUV tire? Or did you mean ProContact?

Their ExtremeContact DW is a great tire.

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^^Yeah, that one. Either one of those is hard a a damn rock. I don't care for Continental tires in the first place.


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