That feature has been beneficial to me many times. On occasions when my family and I are about to leave and we notice we forgot something, I can quickly run back inside without worrying about leaving the car off and my wife and daughter is in the car.AZhitman wrote:It's easily the stupidest feature ever.
Stupid feature that serves no useful purpose.
We've managed with normal keys for 80 years.tekxp007 wrote:That feature has been beneficial to me many times. On occasions when my family and I are about to leave and we notice we forgot something, I can quickly run back inside without worrying about leaving the car off and my wife and daughter is in the car.
Sounds good. I think they went with this design for few reason. One of the reason is it holds the atually key what you need if the fob is dead or malfunctioning.MinisterofDOOM wrote:What I can't figure out is why these radio transceiver keys are still shaped like giant USB drives or novelty keychains. They're HUGE. What gives?
The obvious ideal design for the car-key radio transceiver is a credit card-like format. Transceivers as thick as 2 or 3 credit cards that fit in your wallet are very common for building access control systems...they've been around for a long time.With that form factor, you can put it in your wallet and NEVER have to think about it again. Never forget it. Never need to look for it. And with features like intelligent key and cars like the EX featuring proximity-triggered perimeter illumination, there's no need for the remote even for the lock/unlock/etc. buttons.
Women can leave it in their purse, guys can leave it in their wallet, no one ever has to have that extra bulk in their pockets and no one ever has to forget their key again, because if it's in their wallet it's with their driver's license. And if you happen to forget your wallet, you'll get a pretty quick reminder when you try and unlock the car.
No one's "blaming the car".zozoka1212 wrote:Why is it the cars fault you did not check if you have the fob? If you switch cars and you leave your house key in the other car would that be the cars fault too? LOL
After 15 years I switched to this and had no issue since end of 06. I guess I adopt to a new easier than you. Maybe the 9 years makes a different.AZhitman wrote:
No one's "blaming the car".
I've driven for 24 years. If a car is running, there's a key in the ignition.
You try changing a habit you've had for 24 years and see how it works out for you.
Again, I still don't see a valid purpose for it.
BTW, in your example, if the fob is still "in range", someone can walk up, unlock the door, and drive off. The range on the one I messed with was further than I expected.
Seriously what would it have taken Infiniti to add a speech module. Chrysler had it on their 80s luxury cars!FNAWSM wrote:I personally really like the key fob, but i can see how driving 2.5 hours away without it would make you jaded. Ive never forgot to take my key but the "NO KEY" on the dash is a pretty good reminder... its just short of actually saying it.
I totally agree with you. I love the way it is. I would not want any sytem with over secured and run the risk to shut the frickin car down on me when you are somewhere. The more complicated the system is the better chance for malfunctioning.pwlorraine wrote:This is probably a "feature" in that doing it other ways would be a significant nuisance. If the system shut down everytime it didn't detect the key you'd run the risk of having the car shut off on the highway when the key battery failed or it was hidden electrically by something else like your laptop. That would be unacceptable. The disadvantage is that you can drive off if you drop or leave your key and strand yourself. I've had to train myself to leave the key in my pocket at all times. I would like a credit card key - I wonder how hard that would be to make.
I'm not sure how the key detect circuit works - pushing the unlock or lock button on the key initiates a radio transmitter over a distance. The smart key seems to be able to localize you better - it can tell which door you are next to for example. I'm wondering if that circuit is more like an EZ-PASS - no battery but a circuit that "reflects" a probing signal.
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It does tell you " No key" And beeps few times.MinisterofDOOM wrote:I don't see why the car can't simply display a warning saying "Fob no longer in range" or something like that to let you know you left it somewhere BEFORE you get to your destination and turn the car off.
By the way, there's a MUCH simpler solution to the whole "leave the car running and lock it" thing if you need to run back inside for something than this whole key fob glitch. Nissan did it once in the 90s and dumped it for some moronic reason:Ford still uses it. Nissan for some reason abandoned it. EVERY CAR SHOULD HAVE IT.
I think this is how some mercedes cars are.MinisterofDOOM wrote:What I can't figure out is why these radio transceiver keys are still shaped like giant USB drives or novelty keychains. They're HUGE. What gives?
The obvious ideal design for the car-key radio transceiver is a credit card-like format. Transceivers as thick as 2 or 3 credit cards that fit in your wallet are very common for building access control systems...they've been around for a long time.With that form factor, you can put it in your wallet and NEVER have to think about it again. Never forget it. Never need to look for it. And with features like intelligent key and cars like the EX featuring proximity-triggered perimeter illumination, there's no need for the remote even for the lock/unlock/etc. buttons.
Women can leave it in their purse, guys can leave it in their wallet, no one ever has to have that extra bulk in their pockets and no one ever has to forget their key again, because if it's in their wallet it's with their driver's license. And if you happen to forget your wallet, you'll get a pretty quick reminder when you try and unlock the car.
I drove one of those Chryslers for awhile. It would stall in intersections, and then the voice would tell me "your oil pressure is low". Made me want to pull it's little digital throat out.msvara wrote:
Seriously what would it have taken Infiniti to add a speech module. Chrysler had it on their 80s luxury cars!
Ah, my beloved son. I didn't know you were on this forum too...About Tree Fiddy wrote:The Intelligent key system is one of the best ideas ever. My previous vehicle (Toyota) had their version of the Smart Key system and after living with it for a few years I loved it and decided it was a must have feature for my next car. The system on the M functions just like the Toyota.
I guess I don't have the trouble adapting to new technology that some folks have (and I've driving way longer than 24 years). I'm also somewhat curious why someone would purchase a high end vehicle from the premium division of a manufacturer then spend so much time whining and b****ing about the new technology on the car. Seems like an older vehicle, a lower line vehicle or one from a manufacturer that doesn't implement new tech very rapidly might be a better fit.
Have you met the modern automotive market? It doesn't leave a lot of room for choices. You can count the number of non-premium RWD performance sedans on one hand. If you want RWD and a V8 you don't have any choice. And the way manufacturers package options makes things even worse. I don't care for TCS or VDC or even ABS. But I have to get it unless I buy something in a whole 'nother segment. And if you go outside the US you can't even escape from the tech by buying an econocar. Tech has become ubiquitous. Simply buying a different car to avoid it is not an option. My requirements for a car are simple: large, V8, rear-drive. I'm not going to downgrade to a G35 just to avoid nannytech...I don't WANT a G35. It is missing two of my requirements. And even the Versa has ikey. You can't escape the tech invasion. Every car is laden with it, even in the entry market.About Tree Fiddy wrote:I'm also somewhat curious why someone would purchase a high end vehicle from the premium division of a manufacturer then spend so much time whining and b****ing about the new technology on the car. Seems like an older vehicle, a lower line vehicle or one from a manufacturer that doesn't implement new tech very rapidly might be a better fit.