Hockey Puck Motor Mounts?

Post by **sjbsuperman1425** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:41 am

Hey NICO Familia lol, so i seen on driftopia that you can make some pretty sweet motor mounts that lower the engine out of hockey pucks! I was thinking of doing this now since my motor isn't in yet and it seems to be cheap to make'em, but i was wondering if you guys think i'd have problems with clearance of the downpipe and exhaust system, since it sit lower?

UPDATE: I am wiring my motor in the next day or two and should be in and running by the weekend, if i can get a cherry picker over here

http://www.myspace.com/ilovesammijo add me, i have my whole build on there!

Post by **domicubarican** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:46 am

I have no problems with mine. I have hockey pucks for motor mounts.

Post by **HighwayStar22** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:24 am

care to post what materials you used, how you installed, pics etc for them???

My car is track only so I was going to do solid aluminum mounts, but pucks seem like they might be a little gentler.

Post by **domicubarican** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:30 am

If i knew exactly what size bolts, washers, and nuts I'd help ya out lol I just went to home depot with my motor mount and used it for measurements. I know that I had to get one small washer and one big washer.

Post by **Rin5** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:33 am

HighwayStar22 wrote:care to post what materials you used, how you installed, pics etc for them???

My car is track only so I was going to do solid aluminum mounts, but pucks seem like they might be a little gentler.

the techhttp://www.driftopia.com/tech/tech-and-how-tos/

the puckhttp://www.driftopia.com/2007/...ounts/

Post by **HighwayStar22** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:31 am

I wonder if you could get away with one puck.... Anyone want to measure the distance between the pan and subframe?

I'll need this measurement if I go solid mounts too. I'll love you long time if anyone does it.

Post by **jt15833** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:01 am

1 mount on each side did not work for me and not because of the oil pan, but the hole locations on the block brackets and the subframe. Engine sat to low and the bolts will not secure it properly without modifying either the subframe or engine brackets. Given this was on an S14, it was an issue.

Materials and construction

2.5 hockey pucks is very close to stock mount height.

superglue and some metal washers

engine height after, i had a before but couldn't find it. should be close to the same.

meow

one of the stock mounts condition upon removal. as you can guess i noticed a huge improvement with this hockey puck mod.

how to properly raise engine during install

enjoy. these are actually for sale if i still have them in my garage. I went to nismo mounts because i view these hockey puck mounts the same way i view a welded diff. Great cheap solution for more expensive counterparts, however you will sacrifice your quality of ride during daily driving. Nismos rock, but so do these. to each his own

Post by **dekansnowman** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:44 am

jt15833 wrote:enjoy. these are actually for sale if i still have them in my garage. I went to nismo mounts because i view these hockey puck mounts the same way i view a welded diff. Great cheap solution for more expensive counterparts, however you will sacrifice your quality of ride during daily driving. Nismos rock, but so do these. to each his own

I agree with this guy. I also have these in an S14 and son of a B can you tell every last bolt that is loose in your car. Ride quality for daily sucks, good thing its my track car.

Post by **ca240sxcoupe** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:40 pm

yeah i have pucks on mine....i cant complain for the price....but you sacrifice the fact that EVERYTHING rattles.....point blank no if, ands, or buts....all of the vent ducting, any loose wiring harnesses anything will rattle.....but for the price difference you can argue with it......so its up to you if you have the money to spare buy nismo....if you on a tight budget rebuilding your motor then make the pucks for a little while.....

Post by **sjbsuperman1425** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:59 pm

i think i may do it in the future if/when i decide to go top mount. the point of the pucks is to "LOWER" the engine to clear the BMC when using a top mount, according to the Driftopia site. also, it supposed to allow for ANY front strut tower bar, not just CA specific ones.

how does the daily driving change? just loose stuff rattles? I have no A/C or Heat so im just wondering how it might affect me?

Post by **jt15833** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:39 pm

hockey puck mounts have been around long before the CA in an S chassis strut bar issue. They are a cheap substitute for a very stiff mount that doesnt allow for barely any engine movement.

for CA it may help w/ lowering but you can only go so low before the bolts won't line up. I may have even had issues with 2 pucks, had to use 2.5

Post by **dekansnowman** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:10 pm

jt15833 wrote:hockey puck mounts have been around long before the CA in an S chassis strut bar issue. They are a cheap substitute for a very stiff mount that doesnt allow for barely any engine movement.

for CA it may help w/ lowering but you can only go so low before the bolts won't line up. I may have even had issues with 2 pucks, had to use 2.5

I noticed that 2 pucks is probably the limit. A friend of mine who helped with the last minute fix noticed the bolt looking to start a weird angle. Any less is too much and no point. I replaced my mounts because one tore and all the gooey crap came out. It was like a chocolate twinkie..

Post by **Rin5** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:15 am

i bet someone from nismo is reading this right now chuckling

good mod for short time span IMO but over time....over long miles driven and ridden

wear and tear will take its toll

Post by **ca240sxcoupe** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:12 am

yeah i agree with rin5.....as soon as i get the time...im replacing mine...

Post by **jt15833** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:36 am

soooo anybody want my set? $20 shipped! w/ hardware

Post by **HighwayStar22** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:23 am

That's why I don't bother with pucks and I'm rockin solid blocks of aluminum.

So you can get away with two pucks on each side right? Anyone care to measure the height on those so I can get to cutting? Lol I would but I don't have any pucks floating around.

Post by **KC240SR** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:44 pm

I was going to do this, but a guy on a local forum make solid aluminum mounts for SR and KA, and can make mounts for any motor with a stock mount as a template. So I just got 2 of his for $40, and they are fantastic.

Post by **jt15833** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:34 am

hockey pucks are 1 inch in height.

Post by **IggyEGuana** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:59 am

I have pucks in my S12. I had to slot the holes on the mount brackets and crossmember to get the bolts to line up. Also the oil pan rests on the steering rack. Other than that its great. I dont mind the vibration.

Post by **RM12577** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:51 am

wow totally pulled from the dead, I have pucks on my car as well, on my hatch i dont have any issues with just running two pucks for each mount, got some pictures of them that will make their way up here one day... do have a pretty good dent in my pan but im pretty sure it was there when i got the motor... the vibes arent bad at all unless you really hate a vibrating car, i ran mine as my DD for a year with the pucks in it

Post by **IggyEGuana** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:12 pm

haha ya sorry for the ressurect. How close is the rear of the pan to the steering rack on urs? Any room? Touching? Mine rested on the rack before the mounts were down all the way when I was droppin the motor in. Thinkin if u have room I might switch to a S13 crossmember/rack/front suspension instead of just the suspension. Ya S12 can do that, lol

Post by **RM12577** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:06 am

I still have some clearance on mine, least an inch maybe two at the most, could go out and measure and get back to you like monday maybe, from what im thinking its like an inch or so though... so it may be beneficial for you to swap to S13 stuff, ill check it out for ya though

Post by **chalander3443** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:39 pm

Hmm... Ride Quality Vs. Proper fitting of front strut... > imo. Rather than lower the engine, why not try putting 1/8inch washer under each one of the three bolts that go through the front struts mounting bracket? surely that should be enough to clear the intake/turbo, though the hood may be a factor... just a little brain food for ya guys.

Post by **sjbsuperman1425** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:07 am

chalander3443 wrote:Hmm... Ride Quality Vs. Proper fitting of front strut... > imo. Rather than lower the engine, why not try putting 1/8inch washer under each one of the three bolts that go through the front struts mounting bracket? surely that should be enough to clear the intake/turbo, though the hood may be a factor... just a little brain food for ya guys.

good idea. but then again, the Hockey Puck mounts are stiffer than the stock mounts. so its kind of like a 2 for 1 type thing, thats all.

Post by **chalander3443** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:58 pm

Are there any positive benefits from having a stiffer motor mount?

Post by **bradt** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:13 am

A slightly better response, due to the lack of travel in the bushings.

A benefit in these, is that you can adjust the height so you can use a standard strut tower bar. It also lowers your center of gravity a tad.

Post by **sjbsuperman1425** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:31 am

chalander3443 wrote:Are there any positive benefits from having a stiffer motor mount?

they make it so the motor doesn't move as much when torque is being applied. they work the same way as those torque dampers, i think?

also, anyone notice that a "motor" is electrical and an "engine" is what powers cars? the terminology is wrong by definition, but everyone still uses "motor mounts" instead of "engine mounts".. it puzzles me lol

Post by **chalander3443** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:42 pm

Is there a large difference in vibrations through the chassis between having a soft, stock motor mount vs a stiff hockey puck motor mount?

Post by **sjbsuperman1425** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:28 pm

i have no idea, i haven't done it. maybe others can shed some light?

Post by **bradt** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:56 pm

Yes, noticeably. The factory mounts were made with daily driving in mind, not performance.

I wouldnt say you would hate DD'ing with em, but it all depends on your areas road conditions.

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