Help me help you M35Xers.

[fat3oy]

Mods! Sorry if it is against the rules to post here, please pm me if I break any or need permission or anything.

So guys. I have a shop in Charlotte NC (won't say the name yet so as not to break advertising rules.) We specialize in making Hondas and Nissans go fast.

I have an 07' M35x, which I have not been shy about experimenting with. Currently, it has a custom setup suspension which slams the car (don't recommend btw unless you are aware of how a slammed car rides and like welding) fabricated exhaust header back, plenum ported and polished, pulleys, and other mundane nonsense. BUT, on the horizon I will be fab'ing up a single turbo kit for VQ, overhauling the trans, playing with some chassis rigidity, and otherwise making it a show/go (400 crank range) for shop advertising. Again, I am not shy messing about with my car, so hopefully my experimentation is your gain.

What I want to know, business-wise, what are you guys really interested in? What do you need apart from aero?

Currently what I am working on (or to say what my partners are working on as I am currently out of the country)

-custom brackets so 350z brembos swap right over to our rotors (if it can be done, and safely)
-strut bar, as well as front upper strut which will tie in the radiator supports (I'm trying to keep this cheap w/ alum, but will be making mine from CF or titanium)
-solid machined engine mounts (I'm pretty sure some 350z ones will already work so it's experimentation phase)
-test pipes for X models, with appropriate bungs for CEL avoidance
-wire tuck kit
-reservoirs for every major replacement
-random composite pieces
-diff bar
-maybe an AC tuck... (i know you guys like leaving in the plastic covers, but I want a tucked bay rofl)

What else would you guys like to see? Mind you this is not an overnight type deal, it is not a priority, and I do not expect to make a lot of money with mass production on a relatively small market, BUT, I love making s*** no one else does.

Would anyone also be interested in a testing type deal, you get a free part, test it, rep the shop, etc? I also picture group buys type deals.

Anyhow tell me what ya think. Mods, again, sorry if I am breaking rules, will do whatever ya need me to do.

[livenlarge]

Bro, is the tire and wheel set up on that M37 staggered?

[cruzad3r]

turbo kit is great but what tune are you going to run with? Uprev has remap but i'm not sure if it's a good fit with your kit. so my first suggestion is to have a ECU map for folks who have some bolt on parts already.

You will have to consider intercooler and all the piping. too many bends equal lag so it has to be well thought. also your welding skill will be put to the test as well here.

i think for this type of car, a good remap that has some oomp and save on gas is key. then you can do full exhaust all the way from the headers back. i don't know what your R&D budget is but to come up with a new header might be a bit pricy. the Ypipe is also good but there are quite a few available on ebay; not sure about the quality but for 150shipped, even if it crapped out 2-3 years later, i think that's acceptable.

Intake is another thing you can play with. something that actually allow cool air into the plenum is definitely helpful.

[built2makeit]

id say a y pip from the cat to the mid pipes for the m45

[Ilya]

I would definitely be interested in a strut bar or two (front and rear - rear maybe lower as I don't want to lose trunk space like I did on the Maxima). Definitely at least a front one if it's not $500000 like the last one someone made lol.

[fat3oy]

Bro, is the tire and wheel set up on that M37 staggered?

Thats an M35X and no they were not staggered..

[fat3oy]

turbo kit is great but what tune are you going to run with? Uprev has remap but i'm not sure if it's a good fit with your kit. so my first suggestion is to have a ECU map for folks who have some bolt on parts already.

You will have to consider intercooler and all the piping. too many bends equal lag so it has to be well thought. also your welding skill will be put to the test as well here.

i think for this type of car, a good remap that has some oomp and save on gas is key. then you can do full exhaust all the way from the headers back. i don't know what your R&D budget is but to come up with a new header might be a bit pricy. the Ypipe is also good but there are quite a few available on ebay; not sure about the quality but for 150shipped, even if it crapped out 2-3 years later, i think that's acceptable.

Intake is another thing you can play with. something that actually allow cool air into the plenum is definitely helpful.

We'll be working with UPREV yes, but only as a baseline, short term would be using a standalone, but hopefully we can develop some maps.

We build all of our turbo kits in house so proper piping will not be an issue... reproduction without a market might be though lol

Headers are our forte' luckily there is plenty of metadata from 350z and G35 headers that we can build off of. Using the info that's out there and just tailor it to the M won't be incredibly difficult.

Good idea on the intake, we'll have to address proper intakes that are M specific before going ahead with the turbo build, as everything will change after that. Since I am the composite guy, what are your thoughts on inclosed intakes? Like Gruppe M?

My welding sucks a**, thank god we have proper welders on staff as I'll probably go with a V-band setup and some pretty TIGs during the mani build for the turbo.

[fat3oy]

id say a y pip from the cat to the mid pipes for the m45

Luckily we have an M45 that frequents the shop... will have to force him on the lift to see what were working with... Unfortunately all I have is the M35x which gets all wonky underneath with the AWD stuff.

[fat3oy]

I would definitely be interested in a strut bar or two (front and rear - rear maybe lower as I don't want to lose trunk space like I did on the Maxima). Definitely at least a front one if it's not $500000 like the last one someone made lol.

Bro! I hear ya... The prices on the past strut bars were ridiculous.

As I said we're currently sketching out some ideas so we can work with an aluminum strut bar up front... thats actually the first project...

As I see it we should be able to CNC out some solid strut brackets, short, and tie them with an aluminum bar... biggest issue im seeing right now is hood clearance, as to make the thing overly solid we have to have some beefy connectors. If we can make the entire thing from aluminum with some small stitch tigs materials should be under $100 easy... And I'd prolly sell for between 100-150 depending on coating. If I get a proper bar setup, to my liking, I'll use it to tool some composite pieces, which of course would be higher in price, but mad sexy.

Not sure about rear... I am looking at some lower tie bars, but thats probably as far as I would go with it... above the strut is too messy and I doubt people would be interested in destroying their trunkspace... And anything directly touching strut housing would be too hazardous, at this time, for us to put our name on it... If I do make something, we'd have to have a liability agreement signed for testing purposes

But cheers man... Strut bars are on the way, as it was by far my favorite stiffening mod on the Z.

[Ilya]

I would definitely be interested in a strut bar or two (front and rear - rear maybe lower as I don't want to lose trunk space like I did on the Maxima). Definitely at least a front one if it's not $500000 like the last one someone made lol.

Bro! I hear ya... The prices on the past strut bars were ridiculous.

As I said we're currently sketching out some ideas so we can work with an aluminum strut bar up front... thats actually the first project...

As I see it we should be able to CNC out some solid strut brackets, short, and tie them with an aluminum bar... biggest issue im seeing right now is hood clearance, as to make the thing overly solid we have to have some beefy connectors. If we can make the entire thing from aluminum with some small stitch tigs materials should be under $100 easy... And I'd prolly sell for between 100-150 depending on coating. If I get a proper bar setup, to my liking, I'll use it to tool some composite pieces, which of course would be higher in price, but mad sexy.

Not sure about rear... I am looking at some lower tie bars, but thats probably as far as I would go with it... above the strut is too messy and I doubt people would be interested in destroying their trunkspace... And anything directly touching strut housing would be too hazardous, at this time, for us to put our name on it... If I do make something, we'd have to have a liability agreement signed for testing purposes

But cheers man... Strut bars are on the way, as it was by far my favorite stiffening mod on the Z.

I like where your head is at and am behind you 100% on the strut bar stuff. If you need a tester, by all means, 'beam me up Scotty!'.

Good luck on your venture(s).

[fat3oy]

Yeah man, thanks for the luck...

If I can swing the strut in front of the plenum, like a stillen setup, we'll be good to go... Won't be styling, but mad functional...

[fat3oy]

Also if anyone is interested in seeing the drop from the custom setup... i scrape like crazy...

before dropping the rear fully...



and after dropping the rear... car is actually level lol



and my engine bay... but EVERYTHING is about to change...

[Partysan7]

Hey , sorry maybe off topic hows that Kinetix plnm doing ? Is this mod same as adding spacer ?

[cruzad3r]

PM me and we can talk about different material that other have used to make the intake and ensure actual cool air feed into the car.

Since this car is pretty similar to the 350Z and G35, i'm sure you can use a lot of data out there to keep your R&D spending down. so "hopefully" the cost of your parts are somewhat competitive and become a huge incentive for end user like myself to justify and spend on your parts.

Finally, is there any thought on camber kit for this car? those who are on coilover kit and don't have the camber kit, it might be an issue. i haven't jump to the coilover and have to stick with stock expensive suspension is because of this reason. Last note, if there's anyway you can fab up a spindle for all those M35X owners to have more choices on suspension parts (both struts and shocks from KYB) that would be very beneficial.

[fat3oy]

Hey , sorry maybe off topic hows that Kinetix plnm doing ? Is this mod same as adding spacer ?

Kinda the same as adding a spacer, but still more plenum volume... I actually have a spacer on there too...

This upper is no good for F/I, and not much of a difference really, at least from what I've seen in power band... I'd recommend an angled plenum spacer or rev-up lower instead of this upper.

[fat3oy]

PM me and we can talk about different material that other have used to make the intake and ensure actual cool air feed into the car.

Since this car is pretty similar to the 350Z and G35, i'm sure you can use a lot of data out there to keep your R&D spending down. so "hopefully" the cost of your parts are somewhat competitive and become a huge incentive for end user like myself to justify and spend on your parts.

Finally, is there any thought on camber kit for this car? those who are on coilover kit and don't have the camber kit, it might be an issue. i haven't jump to the coilover and have to stick with stock expensive suspension is because of this reason. Last note, if there's anyway you can fab up a spindle for all those M35X owners to have more choices on suspension parts (both struts and shocks from KYB) that would be very beneficial.

Fabbing a spindle would be too dangerous for me to sell... I just can't risk it. Mine has been good for 10k miles or so, and I reckon it is safe, but to create one for other memebers is just to much of a liability. I can maybe throw a guide on here how to modify the fronts so you can fit 350z coilovers, but thats about it... ALSO as I have recently found out when using the 350z coils sagging will eventually happen; since then I've done a lot of math and have found proper coils to fit the KW V2s and provide proper resistance while still staying slammed...

Camber really is only an issue in the rear, and should be easily adjusted with just a camber bolt kit... As far as A arms, we cannot properly fab those at this time. I have about 6 sets of wheels right now with varying offsets and rolling diameters that I am going to try out and see the drop/wheel size/camber ratio and how far we can push the adjustments, so that will be incoming... as of right now thought i am confident that the forced camber we experiance when the car is dropped, is fixable with proper camber bolts.