HB's l28et swap

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Alright well ive had my 240 for about 3 years now, and ive done a few upgrades which i was far too lazy to document, perhaps with the time restraints i had since the car served as my daily for that time period. I currently am lowered on koni shocks and RSR springs, q45 brakes up front and enkei mesh wheels. My build will probably be a slow one, with most work being done in stages. For this winter, i have a list i want to accomplish:

s15 hlsd install- checkRucas (PBM probably) -actually went SPL checkEnergy Suspension bushings (possibly only the rears for this hibernation period)- check180sx manual seat belt conversion-checkredo the interior (recover glovebox, armrest and door panels, new sound deadening etc)-check minus the recovering of the panelsMost importantly i need to tackle the rust thats accumulating on my car for 20 years-mad props to mike check!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/image ... squint.gif" BORDER="0">

re-undercoating is in order when im done with the rust repair. I got some in the bay area (strut towers) but i may wait till next fall to tackle that when i pull my motor

STAGE ONE COMPLETE!! will update with a driving impression in a few days when its on the road and headin down windy roads

some pics of the rust

-thats what i got up front i hate the NE

anyways so i started with gutting my interior to get my car ready for my friend who is going to help me cut out all the rot and patch my holes with new metal.



a little bastard i found under a panel <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/image ... es/eek.gif" BORDER="0">



used dry ice on the sound deadening, that crap really works... note the carnage



next after getting up most of the sound deadening i began to wirebrush all the rough spots to smooth out all my surfaces in preparation for a nice spray of white rattlecan (after i patch my floors etc)



while it might not look like much, its a big dent in my work. hopefully by friday ill have dates to start the metalwork, and a clean shot of a totally clean cabin

i cannot start the rest of the projects until i drive the car to his house, and drive it back so it may be a week or two till i get some more work done but its a start i guess

comment, enjoy
Modified by hbpignosePA at 12:06 AM 5/5/2009
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I want to check out this build, I too have a build thread and have been adding parts since 240 is my DD. I also have a problem with rust and am debating whether or not to repair it or just find a good shell and swap everything over to it. Good luck with all the work and I look forward to the build.

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looking really good so far. now will you gut the interior or put it back in?

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thanks im contemplating stich welding too (depends on how nice my friend is) where the doors end and the rear seat area begins, the dip i mean. also i might fab up some cross mounts for the trans tunnel or seat mounts in the front to the back seat area

i will still run back seats, because i like a clean interior... but im toying with fabbing some braces to run under the seats... idk yet the guy whos helping me has access to a laser cutter for custom stuff so we will see

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Good luck with the build. Kudos for tackling that cancer

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Definitely going to keep track of this thread.

Also op, im pretty much going to be exactly doing the same thing that you just showed in those pics pretty soon. So, how much do those wire brush things cost? Just curious.

Looks good so far.

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Gut the interior, that's where the secks starts.

Good to see another white Hatch in PA! :D


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YAY!

I told you i would have my eye out for it.

I was going to comment on how clean your cockpit looked but you already mentioned it.

I like the way you give a realistic goal for the year or season, Very smart. There is nothing wrong with a slow build that only means for the most part that it is being done right to your standards. Planning ahead is also good which i noticed you are doing by doing everything in stages, i know just by reading that, that i am going to enjoy watching this thread.

I need to buy a wire brush thing so i can do that to my car, and play with some dry ice.

Looks good so far man!

One Love,

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Sweet, I can use a few pointers on rust repair

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Looks good so far, ill keep an eye out for new updates.

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the wire brushes i got at lowes for like 5 bucks a piece. im gonna go back and get a few more. You can probably use one for the whole interior, but i had ALOT of excess tar and goo that wouldve ment hours to get it all up. at the very least ill buy one more to do one last sweep after im done.

wire brush is the best bang for the buck to clear paint and that tar stuff... ill use it under the car too when i spray it again and then truck bed line it.

WC- no ill have a full interior, im not that baller

honestly the rust isnt too bad, the rails are flawless all around its basically in the creases from 20 years of salted roads

i probably wont be able to work on it till saturday so ill update sunday or monday

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hbpignosePA wrote:WC- no ill have a full interior, im not that baller
good choice, i'm only wondering cuz i'm keeping full interior

now i forget, but i'm almost positive you said your pulling the body harness right?

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not pulling it per see, but im removing everythign i dont need (all the wiring for the auto seat belts, and when i pull the dash for my swap ill remove the non essentials (AC wiring, Cruise control, among other systems im not going to run. for now im just gutting the auto belt wiring.... i only want to pull the dash once when i do my swap


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oh i see. i was going to say if you pull it i recommend wiring a plug in at the license plate lighting. it makes it easier if you ever do have to pull the harness

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Alright update time:

so i finished cleaning up the interior (mostly) ill go back over it again with the wire brush before i spray it. but i figure for now with dirty feet i just spread the dirt around; and im gonna be cutting and welding in patches anyways



and for WC this is the spot im talkin about... note my frusteration



i began removing all the wiring for the auto seatbelts since i will be putting in factory 180sx belts; which unfortunately are on back-order. I did buy the headliner already



heres where im confused on the wiring... i realize that some of the wires will continue to the dash, which im not pulling till i swap motors, but after examining the wiring for that attach to the control box for the belts, there are three black wires that run back through the car. not sure where they go; i already am up to the divide in wiring re wrapping everything, i guess ill have to backtrack.

anyone know where these wires go? are they grounds? The FSM doesnt have the pin numbers and what each wire goes to that i can find.



my friend got back to me with some dates to start my patches. that work will get a start march 7th, so i desided to install my s15 helical differential awhile. got the car airborne today, and drained the fluid. Ill pickup later this week on pullin it apart



on a funny note this morning i took the last of my datsun to the scrap yard. Was going to borrow my uncles truck; but our schedules werent matching so i said **** it. I love having a beat *** car



500 lbs of suspension arms, shocks, both doors and some other random pieces. stay tuned

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Koni shocks and RSR Springs?

I assume you've got inserts? How does it ride?

You ever wanna sell those, you let me know.

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nice HB getting back to work

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rears are full shocks, fronts are inserts. they feel amazing..... drop isnt baller like the coilover fanboys crave but its a decent drop and perfect for a daily car.

probably wont be sellin them thou

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where are you getting the manual seatbelts?i want some.auto seat belts are a waist of space, wires, energy, everything.

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pandagarage is aparently getting some in their shipment in march

but i got dibs i want ones w blue trim lol

they are pricey (probably gonna be about 400ish for the belts and a headliner) but so worth it. those things are so annyoing anyways. it weighs alot too.

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hbpignosePA wrote:rears are full shocks, fronts are inserts. they feel amazing..... drop isnt baller like the coilover fanboys crave but its a decent drop and perfect for a daily car.
Where did you get the full rears? RSR's drop what? 2 inch?

I need a set of "dampners" to go with my free Tien springs.

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if you get the yellows they are all full shocks in the rear. tirerack had em about a year ago thats where i got the fronts. bought the rears used w the RSRs

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Good Job so far, I'm doing similar stuff right now to my hatch. Except I don't have the rust problems. :D

And I'm in PA also, tisk tisk salt. eatin cars away lol

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looking pretty good i wish i had the patience to pull all my sound deadner out that clean

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nice update, i love the last pic. that cressida is indeed pure win.

as for the manual belt stuff....holy s***!!! $400???? thats insane! i know an easy way you could save $380, buy nx belts. i paid like 15 or 20 for mine and they will go right in nicely with minimal work

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White Comet wrote:nice update, i love the last pic. that cressida is indeed pure win.

as for the manual belt stuff....holy s***!!! $400???? thats insane! i know an easy way you could save $380, buy nx belts. i paid like 15 or 20 for mine and they will go right in nicely with minimal work
or find one from canada. one of my hatches is canadian, and they are just baller enough to do the gauge cluster in km, and they even used manual belts.

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White Comet wrote:nice update, i love the last pic. that cressida is indeed pure win.

as for the manual belt stuff....holy s***!!! $400???? thats insane! i know an easy way you could save $380, buy nx belts. i paid like 15 or 20 for mine and they will go right in nicely with minimal work
i couldve went that way, but id rather have the trim and stuff without the rails for the belts.

sorta like you getting type x aero. id rather not cheap out on this one. im not into fancy exteriors, im more of an interior slut.

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yeah i hear ya, but check out splintercells thread, he swapped in manual belts without getting the jdm stuff. its possible to do very cleanly and all my panels will still be on

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yea splintercell's is nice but im still set on it.

and the cressida is more than win; its probably my best buy evar

got the differential out today.. i sorta regret pulling it now since thats all im pulling; its gotta go back in before i drive it to my friends, shouldve just waited till after my bodywork when i dropped the subframe. its not fun to pull yourself. damn thing was a pain to get out, and when it did finally come down, it slipped and fell on my arm

im gonna have a nice welt there tommorow

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looks sweet


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