GM's illuminated entry is STUPID.

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Particularly, the fact that the REVERSE LIGHTS come on with the dome/courtesy lights. What synaptically impaired DIPASS thought this was a good idea?

Let's think about this:
Stock production car backup lights serve a single purpose: alert other drivers to the fact that you are backing up. They do not provide illumination. They are an INDICATOR TO OTHER DRIVERS.

Now let's make those lights come on ANY TIME HAVE A DOOR OPEN! :facepalm:

My neighbors' minivan (an Uplander) has this feature, and it drove me nuts for quite a while until I realized what was going on. Damn near EVERY TIME I drove by, the van was sitting with its reverse lights on. So I'd stop and wait for the car to back out of the parking spot. Which wouldn't happen. People are dumb and sit in reverse all the time, so I figured it was simply operator stupidity. Then one day I noticed that the sliding door was open. The next time I drove by it was night, and the liftgate was open. Reverse lights were on, interior lights on, no one in the driver's seat and no brake lights. That's when it finally hit me.

I understand the point of providing safe illumination around a car in the dark. But backup lights DON'T PRODUCE THAT MUCH LIGHT. And even if they did, there are better ways to accomplish that (see pickups with bed lights). And how often do you park and then walk BEHIND your vehicle in the dark? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Completely undermines the functional purpose of backup lights.

My LS has illuminated entry, too. It doesn't turn on daytime running lights or reverse lights or any of that s***. It has DEDICATED LIGHTS in the side mirrors to light ground beside the car. Regular Fords do this. But GM? Nah, they won't add new lights when there are exisiting ones to misuse. What's next, hazard lights when you forget to lock the car?

When I see backup lights I'm going to slow or stop, with the assumption that the driver of that car hasn't seen me. I don't need them coming on for no effing reason.


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Real talk. That annoys the hell out of me.

If I end up getting hired by GM (a reasonable possibility), I'm going to make correcting this my life's mission.

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I take those bulbs out. I like to make backing up exciting. I am going to mount the HID driving lights to the back of the cab, though. The next a** hat that highbeams me is getting their retinas baked by the angry candlepower.

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themadscientist wrote:I am going to mount the HID driving lights to the back of the cab, though. The next a** hat that highbeams me is getting their retinas baked by the angry candlepower.
I always wanted to do this in the empty clear space on the Maxima's center strip.
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themadscientist wrote:I take those bulbs out. I like to make backing up exciting. I am going to mount the HID driving lights to the back of the cab, though. The next a** hat that highbeams me is getting their retinas baked by the angry candlepower.
:rotfl
Good idea. :chuckle:

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:Stock production car backup lights serve a single purpose: alert other drivers to the fact that you are backing up. They do not provide illumination. They are an INDICATOR TO OTHER DRIVERS.
False.
The reason why backup lights always have clear lenses is so you can see what's behind you in the dark. They also serve as an indicator, but it is not their only purpose.

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With Datte on this one, I use my backup lights for illumination all the time. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, a well lit vehicle deters theft (Or serves as a beacon....whichever)

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I have NEVER driven a car with reverse lights bright enough to actually make a difference. Especially not up against tail/brake light illumination. And I've driven a lot of cars at night.

But yes, I realize that's an INTENDED purpose of reverse lights. It's just not a purpose that actually works.

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My truck only has one. Smaller Japanese cars don't normally get two. Weak.

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My old S13's taillights worked fine for seeing what was behind me. Same thing with the Pulsar, the Z, the minivan and the S12. (all cars I've owned) I don't understand why you have such a hard time with them...

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Dattebayo wrote:I don't understand why you have such a hard time with them...
Just being stubborn and difficult.

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Glad i'm not the only one that thinks it's a stupid idea.

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Oh, it's definitely a stupid idea. I'm on board with that, I always just thought they should make backup lights a little brighter.

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Dattebayo wrote:I always just thought they should make backup lights a little brighter.
Definitely agreed. I wish my backup lights DID provide useable illumination in reverse.

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Dattebayo wrote: False.
The reason why backup lights always have clear lenses is so you can see what's behind you in the dark. They also serve as an indicator, but it is not their only purpose.
:werd: I figured thats why they were white. Definitely helps me back into the driveway at night.

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kill them with kindness.

Be like Caddillac and get led reverse lights.

..except on steroids.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:
themadscientist wrote:I am going to mount the HID driving lights to the back of the cab, though. The next a** hat that highbeams me is getting their retinas baked by the angry candlepower.
I always wanted to do this in the empty clear space on the Maxima's center strip.
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I miss that car. :frown:

Swap reverse bulbs with 6000k HID's. THAT would get notice!


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