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As of March 6, 2006 only the 1996-1998 R33 (RHD) Nissan GTR/GTS vehicles are eligible for importation. NHTSA rescinded what you quoted because they "realized" that the crash test vehicle was an R33 chassis (which debuted in 1993). 1996 comes into play because it was the first year that dual passive restraints (airbags) came standard on the Skyline. Check it out!

http://www.regulations.gov/fdm...c3ebc

The cool thing is...NHTSA has just released the infamous "Addendum A," which holds the ever-so-desired structural modifications that were performed on the crash test "craft" prior to the testing. That means any RI can legally import a 96-98 skyline and will know exactly what to do to bring it into compliance. AKA any RI can "MOTOREX" such skylines! Check it out!

http://www.regulations.gov/fdm...-5507

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that my friend is an awsome find... props\

just have to figure out the obd2 thigy.. ohh let the debates begain

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Interesting

Looks like I have some reading to do and some updates to our importation article.

What I find interesting is there is no mention of OBD being an issue in any of the documents.

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ohh yea all that work you guys did on that an now this comes out... the good the bad and the skyline... i thought it was funny

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I have no issue with "wasted work". Legal RI's still have to go through the conversion process for it to get a federal bond. The information in the addendum is still _just_ for the R33 since those were the only ones crash tested so I do not believe it covers R32 nor R34.

The addendum looks to have been added simply because the JK confidentiality agreement had expired.

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so it is just a r33... but this being released changes alot for importing a skyline... and will drop the price of a bond released skyline to now that any Ri can do it

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audtatious wrote:I have no issue with "wasted work". Legal RI's still have to go through the conversion process for it to get a federal bond. The information in the addendum is still _just_ for the R33 since those were the only ones crash tested so I do not believe it covers R32 nor R34.
yes you can federalize a R34 since we have one in PR federalized,. know what changes or what RI was used i cant remember.. but im sure an RI can find out what they need to do.

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See, that information is something I can't find. Since the crash tests were R33, the only vehicles that can be federalized are those which correspond. JK actually tried to get the ability to federalize the R34 but the DOT denied their ability. The article above simply opens the flood gates for the approved R33's because they released the confidential information the JK had.

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Great info! So is it just the airbag system that they are concerned about? What about the glass and bumpers(metal cores)? Are the headlights plastic? I know S14's (Zenki) are availiable in Japan with glass or plastic. Thanks guys!

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lst time i read that (without the add. A) it stated that the headlights are DOT stamped

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I thought so but didn't know for sure. Sweet deal either way.

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All of this info is so confusing. Im looking to bring a car over for track purposes only. Will it make it into the states if I pick it up and trailor it back?

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Wow, read alot more of it all tonight. Not much is really needed to be done. Being that the R33 and S14 are close cousins. Great deal!

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sticky?

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yes they are very easy mods

here is my q

if you managed to bring one over here, can you have a shop/you do the mods rather than the RI?

if im not mistaken as long as it meets the nhtsa (sp) standards its fine? (not counting the obd problem)

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there is only one problem... you have to get the air bag from JK.... nless you can bolt a s14 wheel to it

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mods have to be done through a registered importer, furthermore before the vehicle even is shipped it needs to be arranged with a registered importer to be shipped to their facility.

vehicles have to imported and brought into compliance with a registered importer and then be approved through the nhtsa. additionally the registered importer will either have to be a independant commercial importer or know of one to work through in order to cover the epa requirments for the 96-98 r33's.

simple route i am taking to conduct my business is getting approved as a registered importer and added to the list so i can legally do everything myself and out-source for whatever parts i need that i dont already have.

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soo what is your companys name... any idea on the epa thing

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how much would you want for a specced up GTR? like if i bought the skyline in japan and you acted as the RI to bring it in and mod it

id be interested

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I will have solid prices and detailed information on my services and products later this year. Right now it is in the works.

If you want to send me specific questions feel free to email me, [email protected]

Steve

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i was thinking now if everyone is ok with this idea. theirs like 99000 members on this site right. why not have every one put in like 10 bucks. thats almost a mill. we buy r32's and r34's have them crash tested like the r33 and get all the paper work done for them. just an idea im throwing out their. i want an r32 gtr and would like to not have to look over my shoulder all the time.

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i was thinking i could manage the money. lol

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thats actually an awesome idea... and i would be willing to throw 10 in there.

let the mod hold it, and get all his contact info, and a written notificatino for every donate.

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I would be cautious on that, I knew of a guy who had a shared Paypal account for a group effort and one of them cleaned out everything and ditched town. Pretty ugly stuff.

I'd be more then happy to drop a donations section on my shop's site once I start getting into the fabrication phase for a cost effective OBDII system. If everyone pitched in a decent amount I would even be willing to do some kind of super discount on completed vehiles up for sale.

Just tossing stuff out there for right now, we'll see how things roll later this year.

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TekuDrifter18 wrote:i want an r32 gtr and would like to not have to look over my shoulder all the time.
Well, there's always 2014.

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TekuDrifter18 wrote:i was thinking now if everyone is ok with this idea. theirs like 99000 members on this site right. why not have every one put in like 10 bucks. thats almost a mill. we buy r32's and r34's have them crash tested like the r33 and get all the paper work done for them. just an idea im throwing out their. i want an r32 gtr and would like to not have to look over my shoulder all the time.
o man thats alot of R32's and 4's. When r32's already fetch a premium. You have to crash test them all differently to pass, like its 45 front, 45 side, and 5 front and 5side. I cant remeber all of them but theres a few and you have to have a different car for all of them, o rollover's another one. Man id hate to watch all that happening, id just be crying. haha

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So, bottom line.

If someone said money is no object.

would it be possible to bring an R34 to California?

If so how much would it cost to have a California plate?

dk

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d k wrote:So, bottom line.

If someone said money is no object.

would it be possible to bring an R34 to California?

If so how much would it cost to have a California plate?

dk
It can be done, just depends on what you are looking for in the product

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Correct.....

It would still not be fed-legal regardless. As long as the person buying the car knows what they are getting (or not getting as the case may be) I'm all for it. Great cars.


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