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End of the world scenario, best caliber pistol to have

Postby themadscientist » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:49 am


This isn't about rifles, if someone wants to start that thread go ahead, it's just as good a question.

Before you click on whatever caliber you love, I love .45 myself, think about it. Governments are failing, paper money is worthless, people are killing each other in the streets over a box of twinkies. You can't swing by the gun store and pick up more ammo, ever again. The s*** has hit the fan, it's road warrior time, only the alphas are going to survive. You have enough time to grab ONE pistol and the ammo to go with it, which caliber do you want?

Disregard the cliche big slow bullet -vs- fast small bullet dogma. Any of these calibers can get it done with a quality bullet and a capable marksman. Cost per round is not an issue, we are planning for armageddon here, price is no object.The scenario is specific and the crucial questions to ask yourself are:

What weight penalty does this ammo bring? Could I get by with something smaller to allow me to carry more in the pistol and on my person and still remain foot-mobile?

How likely is it that I might stumble across a box of this caliber in my foraging through the remnants of civilization? That .50 action express can take out zombies, sure, but when you run out, now what?

What caliber ammo will other people have they would trade to me for something or vice-versa. Do I want to rethink my first choice in favor of something more liquid?

What are the chances if my weapon takes a s***, I can find or trade for another weapon that eats the caliber I have chosen? Do I want to think about the replacements weapons I may be able to get when choosing the caliber?

If you would be willing to carry two, one to use, one for trade or in case you get your hands on a second gun, explain in you post what they would be and why.

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Postby car nut » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:07 am

.44 Magnum AND 9mm. the magnum would be better overall, but the I think the 9mm ammo would be a lot more common.
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Postby Mr1der » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:59 pm

.44 Mag revolver is probably the best all purpose handgun you can own.

I've got 2...a 4" nickel Model 29 and a 10" blued Super Blackhawk.

that said, it, .357 Mag, .45 and 9mm will be the most common ammo you can find usually.

the best caliber will be whatever I can find though
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Postby BusyBadger » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:19 pm

Mr1der wrote:the best caliber will be whatever I can find though
For this singular reason I picked 9mm. I'd prefer .45, but 9mm is so plentiful it would be hard to pick any other calibre over it.
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Postby hatchback240 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:38 pm

tough call between the .45 and the 9x19 para., but i chose .45, pistol of choice being a glock 21. reliability and a heavy hit, generally plentiful ammo from what i understand. that being said, 9mm wouldn't leave me disappointed, only marginally smaller it still packs a hell of a thump.

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Postby Urabus GodofTraction » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:23 pm

.22

I can fit 500 rounds in my pocket, and they can be found in damn near every other house in the US.

So what if I can't kill a moose, small animals are way more common anyway.
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Postby Mr1der » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:54 am

upon further evaluation, I'm gonna opt for the sawed off O/U 12ga.

Mad Max style. Shut up, I know his was a side by side...they just don't look quite as neat and it's pretty damn wide to stick in a holster.



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Postby breadbox » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:18 am

As end of the world senarios go, I would choose which ever shoots the easiest ammo to find.
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Postby s0m3th1ngAZ » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:39 pm

.357 mag / .38
One, because I already have a dan wesson with multiple barrels.
And two, probably as many rounds made as the 9mm.

Does .410 shot shells count?

Cuz I'd go with that...along with some way to quickly replace the barrel with a longer one when firing .45 acp.
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Postby themadscientist » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:15 am

I am going to stock up on .380 for my wife's next Walther and my eventual back up gun, either a Kahr p380 or micro desert eagle. 9mm for my desired Springfield Armory EMP and/or XD subcompact carry gun, and .45 for my dream Kimber CDP 1911.
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Postby Mr1der » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:28 pm

eh...I still need to send my Kahr back in and then maybe trade it off for a XD9SC...13 round flushfit mag, yes please.
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Postby Repo Man » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:19 pm

Any 9mm Glock. Mags and ammo are like the Chevy 350 of guns.
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Postby GAU-8 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:26 am

Repo Man wrote:Any 9mm Glock. Mags and ammo are like the Chevy 350 of guns.
Then the .45 is the 454 of Chevy. Still just as common and more powerful to boot. I don't even carry a 9mm period. Sure it's plentiful, but these days so are many other types like .40 and .45 and .22. It's either one of the first 2 I listed.
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Postby Mr1der » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:37 pm

Repo Man wrote:Any 9mm Glock. Mags and ammo are like the Chevy 350 of guns.
nah. 9mm XD

it's not a Glock and can take Beretta 92 mags.
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Postby themadscientist » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:55 am

I still like the EMP for a 9mm 1911.
Just can't find one, they are all .40 smith.
I got a year and a half to line one up.
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Postby Urabus GodofTraction » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:32 pm

themadscientist wrote:I am going to stock up on .380 for my wife's next Walther and my eventual back up gun, either a Kahr p380 or micro desert eagle. 9mm for my desired Springfield Armory EMP and/or XD subcompact carry gun, and .45 for my dream Kimber CDP 1911.
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Postby Mr1der » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:46 pm

is that the 380 or the 32?

I can't remember...
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Postby speedeast » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:59 pm

.50 Desert Eagle!

But I voted 9mm, ammo grows on trees.
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Postby themadscientist » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:50 pm

I've hefted the DE, a gold-colored one with tiger stripes. I pulled open my waistband and did a check, was satisfied my natural-born hog leg was up to snuff, and put the pimp gun back. I find nothing about the DE useful other the bling factor.
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Postby Urabus GodofTraction » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:02 pm

Mr1der wrote:is that the 380 or the 32?

I can't remember...
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Postby Mr1der » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:57 pm

lol...oh yeah....

I've thought about grabbing one of those or an LCP and putting a clipdraw on it.

maybe a P32. I want something really small for the pocket.
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Postby themadscientist » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:42 pm

Unless you want one of those crackerjack box toy revolvers, this is about it.

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Postby Mr1der » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:12 pm

eh...I haven't seen one to mess with yet.

I'd like an NAA Guardian, but I know it'll bite me.

I can slip the PM9 in most of my jean pockets though..I need to get a pocket holster and uh...a permit.
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Postby PoorManQ45 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:21 pm

charlieo wrote:.22

I can fit 500 rounds in my pocket, and they can be found in damn near every other house in the US.

So what if I can't kill a moose, small animals are way more common anyway.
Agreed. And you can kill just about anything with a 22. Shot placement is just really important.
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Postby Mr1der » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:13 pm

kill a man hiding behind a tree
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Postby themadscientist » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:01 pm

Stand behind him and pop him in the back of the head. The tree will be fine.
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Postby snwbrdr435 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:47 pm

Lol just don't bring this guy haha
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Postby themadscientist » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:03 am

The joke's on him. There's no barrel in his machine gun....

Must take styling cues from the empire.

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Postby snwbrdr435 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:02 am

^ precisely why you don't want him as a companion on your post apocalyptic journeys.
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Postby 4cefed » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:39 am

No one picked .40 s&w yet? Federal just won a contract to supply like 20 million rounds to homeland defense or something. Those rounds must be out there somewhere.

I would say in order of availability for autos:

9mm
.45
.40

and revolvers:

.38/.357
.44spc/mag
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