Duratec 3.0 w/T5 Manual Turbo swap

[BurritaSVT]

Hi all my name is Joey

I build turbo kits for duratecs in FWD applications and have problem holding 400whp on the front tires so I have a friend who bought a 95 Nissan with Skyline body kit offer me his car for a wicked project. He wanted to originally build the 2.4 liter engine up and I said no thanks I am not going to follw everyone footsteps.

Now a little background of me I know duratecs engine very well they are overbuilt engine for their platforms. The block handle 1000hp, cranks 1200hp, rods 500hp and pistons 475hp stock. The motors come with 200hp 200tq stock with 10.1:1 CR and have dual overhead cams. The stock motors with headers shell out over 220whp with tune because ford resticts the exhaust terribly and that is using SVT cams too. I built a fully built motor that netted 405whp 410wtq falling 1k Rpms short of redline (turbo 57 trim to small). We equipped the motor with a 60-1 and turned the boost from 13 psi to 16 psi on the street while tuning the car and spun a bearing due to oil to thin for loads. Now this was 8.5:1 CR forged rods, diamond pistons, ARP studs, etc good for 550whp on pump gas.

Now the stock 3.0 liter handle 12 -13 psi stock putting down just shy of 400whp on stock internals which I was about to go bakc to dyno for dyno proof and the darn boost controller flipped out and went over 16psi Snap a rod.

We have the engine out of the Lincoln LS 3.0 stock 238hp 220tq where we will copy the brackets setups for RWD platform. I will be using the Taurus 2004 block though due to availablity and head design is different. We will first run the car NA to get baseline numbers then add a single turbo application to the motor using a T3/T4 60 Trim .63 AR stage 3 wheel. I will be using the Spec Stage 3+ clutch assemlby with custom driveshafts.

The engine block weight 150 pounds all aluminum and strong and fully dressed out with all the accessories, intakes etc weighs 325 pounds. So I imagine we will be less or the same in weight with more torque and power than most swaps. The car is already equipped with electric fans and has a LS1 Rearend with 300ZX TT brakes.

Here are some pics of the car before it was stripped.



Here are some 400whp duratecs he was inspired by



Here is pic of another guy who did it in UK car with the T5

[Dittoz7]

Interesting...

[BurritaSVT]

I just received my two motors for the swap I am just using one to see how the RWD is setup on the Lincoln and I will be using the Taurus 2004 motor for the actual swap. I will have to buy some accessories parts now A/C make a adapter plate, use the contour alternator braket, Maybe even the front cover too. I will utilize all the various parts that the duratecs share so hopefully I can make a monster turbo car. Once we get the T5 flywheel and transmission here we will mate the two together and lower it in the car to see where we need to put the setup for the shifter to work in stock hole. Here are the pics of the two engine that shown up yesterday.

Lincoln LS 238 hp 2005 duratec 3.0 10:5.1 CR

Taurus 2004 205hp 10:1.1 CR


Modified by BurritaSVT at 10:03 PM 4/30/2008

[Dittoz7]

Budget?

Props For Being Unique!

[r34 gtr]

Looks like it'll be a crazy car man. I'll look forward to some updates.

[BurritaSVT]

%[QUOTE=Dittoz7]Budget?

Props For Being Unique![/QUOTE

I want to keep the price under 6k with turbo kit

The NA will be under 3k with supporting mods

so far I expect it to plan out like this

Taurus Motor 23k miles $450 shippedT5 transmission with flywheel $300Starter LS or T5 $35Spec Clutch set $400 Stage 3+ Injectors 42# $279Contour ECU $50Contour engine Harness $50Coil Pack $30MSDS headers Modified $250Driveshaft Custom $300Xcal2 handheld tuning $350Adapter Plate transmission $150Clutch slave cylinder $25Clutch Lines $30Fuel Pump 255lph $9090mm MAF with adpater $100various parts and fluids $500 NA= $3400 with all the aftermarket mods 220whp++NA=$3000 if staying NA 220whp The swap could cost as less as $2000 if the parts are sourced out enough and use stock tune on the ECU

Now I can add $3500 for a large turbo kit supporting over 500hp but I will be limited to 450hp on stock internals

Once we run this setup for awhile we build a fully built motor for $3k and go over 600hp with maybe a built T5 too. Joey

[OutToWinPAHC]

I spy jailbait....

Why a T5? Not the strongest 5 speeds out there, You could get a T45 (mustang GT) for about the same price.

Neat swap, but whats up with that one intake, it has like way more then 6 runners????

[BurritaSVT]

I spy jailbait....

Why a T5? Not the strongest 5 speeds out there, You could get a T45 (mustang GT) for about the same price.

Neat swap, but whats up with that one intake, it has like way more then 6 runners????

Well the T5 can handle up to 400 punds of torque before it becomes hairy from what I read I may have to change to the T45 instead of building the the T3 but I think and don't quote me will bolt up to the same housing so I will weigh out buying a fully built transmission for $1k or redesigning the adapter plate T45. Thanks for the info I did look for the power output capabilty for the different transmission but I did see the T5 was cheaper and more readily available I paid $250 for the transmission and $50 for the flywheel plus I get free shipping on all LKQ products too.

I was going to just use the Lincolns LS RWD transmission but from the forums people say it is weak but people said the same things about our MTX75 transmission in the contour platforms but never had I broke a gear in it yet.

The runner are 6 from what I saw maybe you are seeing the crossover connector they use on the plenum. I will try to use the lightweight Taurus plastic manifold first for height or better clearances. I will dyno both setups to see which one nets more power on the NA side. I know the Lincoln motor is harder to find so I am trying to do a swap that anyone can get the whole package for less then $2k putting down 220whp with 210wtq to 7krpms with less weight on the front end.

The real reason I like the ford motors is that they have full tuning support unlike alot of motor where you have to do piggyback or standalones. I was hoping most people would not talk down the ford powerplant because it was nissan platform where alot of people stay loyal to the import side. The engine was designed by Porshe not Ford so really the engine is not American at all which is why it high spirited motor. The same setup we are putting in this car is identical to the Noble M400 you will see how fast the car is with lightweight components which is a 3.0 liter twin turbo netting 450hp stock one of the fastest production cars on the road too.

[ca18detgabby]

The real reason I like the ford motors is that they have full tuning support unlike alot of motor where you have to do piggyback or standalones. I was hoping most people would not talk down the ford powerplant because it was nissan platform where alot of people stay loyal to the import side. The engine was designed by Porshe not Ford so really the engine is not American at all which is why it high spirited motor. The same setup we are putting in this car is identical to the Noble M400 you will see how fast the car is with lightweight components which is a 3.0 liter twin turbo netting 450hp stock one of the fastest production cars on the road too.

BAHAHAAHAHAHA

sorry you may know things about the 2.5L engine, but the 3.0L is an entirely different beast. Tuning support? mind informing the rest of us? my boy friend has had his 6(same 3L) since it was produced in 03. He has yet to see the 220WHP or even close simply because timing and engine management are non-exsistant. he was part of the test group that worked with superchips in longwood,florida. He currently is helping with development of parts for streetunit performance and Gt-spec.

hope you enjoy going stand alone, but there isnt a dam thing you are going to be able to do otherwise for engine management. adding fuel with a SAFC and running 4-6 pounts is cute I suppose. this indestructable engine you speak of has yet to last an entire bottle of nitrous with only a 50 shot...... with proper support mods.

sorry this is a rediculous idea speaking as someone who has spent time working on these engines.

want to go ford? go buy a supercoupe engine and fab some mounts. problem solved. 302, 4.6L mod, or be smart about it.

Im sorry this is a little brash as he is reading over my shoulder, but there is a point where different becomes a waste.

ps it is a lateral engine and mounting that in an S is going to be a real trick as the taurus/6/zepher/ ect line is far far wider..... lol his car has a real big ***.

[BurritaSVT]

Wow

Not trying to come off like I know it all but I specialize in duratec engines for all cars. Plus I am SCT dealer and have uned over 100 duratec with the xcal3 using the advantage 3 software. I hold the highest power in the duratec community with over 400whp I will supply you with dynos. I am not going to come over here and feed alot of bull to anyone. The duratecs are detuned from factory the Mazda 6 VVT engine which I have on another engine stand has no tuning for it if you are referring to the tuning side but sniper has borke through on the newer CAN system but the taurus,cougars, cotours, escapes all have OBD2 ports that except the xcal3 handheld.

Now why is hard to believe that a 3.0 liter puts down 220whp when I can do a direct swap using crappy Taurus cams and put down 198whp using the escape (same as Mazda6) intake no headers or mods just tuning. I ran a 13.2 A/F across the board.

Here is a Taurus 2003 swap with headers and a short ram with A/F running 11.5 because he didn't have a good tune yet which once he collects his money and send it to me he will have 225whp just by moving him to 13.5 A/F

This is a direct swap not one single mod with stock exhaust with my tuning which netted me over 15whp from stock OEM tune.

here is my dyno at 13 psi where the dyno operator wrote 16 psi because he thought he heard me say that.........lol but the turbo was to small fell off at 6k due to compressor effiency was out the door 57 trim good for 450 motor only.

http://webhosting.web.com/imag...le=13 Psi 1999 SVT Contour

now I learn things everyday but if I make a mistake or sat something wrong I will be the first to say it. I even have a mazda 6 dyno if yo want me to host it up for you with just headers made over 20whp no tune pig rich. netted 218whp too. Joey
Modified by BurritaSVT at 11:20 AM 5/1/2008

[Tulsa_S-13]

Thanks for joining NICO Joey, it's always good to have someone experienced in tuning a specific engine throwing out real information.

Both my parents drive Duratec powered Fords, as my mom owns a 2001 Mercury Cougar and my dad owns a 2000 SVT Contour.

I'm not a huge fan of Ford engineering (I'd be glad to discuss this opinion, just not here on the forums), but the 2.5L Duratec is a pretty stout engine.

There are a few problems though. If using the SVT 2.5L, then you need to address the evident oil starvation problem, as it seems many SVT owners have found that under cornering problems occur.

In the S-chassis the problems you're going to run into are dealing with the direction of the intake. The intake manifold on the 2.5L is interesting to say the least. The Duratec is also a very wide V6, but it should fit without any problems, but routing of the radiator hoses should be interesting.

Also, what are you going to do when it comes to replacing the waterpump? On the 2.5L Duratec the waterpump is ran off a seperate belt on the other side of the engine compared to the serpentine belt. Pull the engine when it comes to replacing the waterpump? Sounds like a PITA.

Should be interesting if you go through with your plans.

[dickie]

cool idea, love to see the end result.

also, like outtowin noted, there is jailbait in the pic of the car up top. being that this is a car forum, i feel it only necessary to post more details and hopefully prove us wrong. if they are indeed of legal age, more pics are going to be required as well.

[BurritaSVT]

lol well I realized my wife was in one pic she is 23 yrs old she just looks young and the other two girls is the owners GF who is over 20 yrs old .......lol but I was maybe unaware of the pictures waranting that but yes I hoped I cleared it up

Now yes the 2.5 liter engine did not have rear drains on the heads the newer 1999 an up engine have all the rear drains so since we are using only 3.0 we are fine ther plus the 2004 have revised oil passages in the heads for even better oil flow.

Now the intake is mirrored meaning i can turn the intake to the front with just a small 1/2 spacer will clear the timing cover hump with no issue. I plan on using the waterpump off of the Lincoln LS RWD or maybe since the waterpump is slim may have enough space on the rear with the adapter giving me some more room and depending on the transmission position too.

The water jacket I can just use tradition prebent hose but turn it off the right side if I use te waterpump off the Lincoln. My biggest concern so far is that the shifter will come in right where I want it. I measure in the front of the engine I will have alot of room in the front so If I have to move the setup forward to clear the firewall we will see soon.

The mounts will be same one LS lincoln uses and the good thing is duratec always puts the bolt hole in all the duratecs so they don't have to build more cast ones.

I am exicted to be able to feel what duratec will be able to do with traction now.

Oh I also looked into the T5 it is only good for 250 tq so I will be mre likely building it up on the turbo part but will work fine on the NA portion. Or I will get the T45 ot T56 when we do blow it..........lol and I will try too.

Thanks for the compliments guys I know I can do it just will take some time

[OutToWinPAHC]

Yeah The T45's can be had for the right price now and then. Just gotta find them, but there are a lot of them in wrecked cars out there so If you have a good junk yard you could probably u pull it for 100 bucks or pay them to pull it for 300

[ca18detgabby]

Wow

Not trying to come off like I know it all but I specialize in duratec engines for all cars. Plus I am SCT dealer and have uned over 100 duratec with the xcal3 using the advantage 3 software. I hold the highest power in the duratec community with over 400whp I will supply you with dynos. I am not going to come over here and feed alot of bull to anyone. The duratecs are detuned from factory the Mazda 6 VVT engine which I have on another engine stand has no tuning for it if you are referring to the tuning side but sniper has borke through on the newer CAN system but the taurus,cougars, cotours, escapes all have OBD2 ports that except the xcal3 handheld.

Now why is hard to believe that a 3.0 liter puts down 220whp when I can do a direct swap using crappy Taurus cams and put down 198whp using the escape (same as Mazda6) intake no headers or mods just tuning. I ran a 13.2 A/F across the board.

Here is a Taurus 2003 swap with headers and a short ram with A/F running 11.5 because he didn't have a good tune yet which once he collects his money and send it to me he will have 225whp just by moving him to 13.5 A/FThis is a direct swap not one single mod with stock exhaust with my tuning which netted me over 15whp from stock OEM tune.

here is my dyno at 13 psi where the dyno operator wrote 16 psi because he thought he heard me say that.........lol but the turbo was to small fell off at 6k due to compressor effiency was out the door 57 trim good for 450 motor only.

now I learn things everyday but if I make a mistake or sat something wrong I will be the first to say it. I even have a mazda 6 dyno if yo want me to host it up for you with just headers made over 20whp no tune pig rich. netted 218whp too. Joey

Modified by BurritaSVT at 11:20 AM 5/1/2008

Im not arguing that a simple intake upgrade didnt net a ton of power as he it has been proven. SCC(IIRC) did a dyno run on their 6 pre and post injen intake only to net 198WHP. CPE headers were stated to net you 15..... I suppose if you think a CBE will net you another 7.

as previously stated the 2.5L(contour platform) and the 3.0L are entirely different monsters. the contour platform got pwned 1/2 the time with under drive pullies as it created crank whip. with the 3.0L this issue seems to be under control with the unorthadox racing line.

the issue with the engine and making power is the tuning. the SCT tuners are just another super chip and there hasnt been a single 6 that has ever done one thing with them as the PCM is such a finicy peta that they fail. The Uni-chip and CPE MAFT are the closest anyone has really gotten to tuning on a 6. the MAFT like a SAFC in most senses but does not have any control over the injectors. The uni-chip is a burnable piggy back that has yet to show much if any upgrade to the platform. most see no more than 20HP in gains. Yes it can play with a fuel curve a slight amount(as a SAFC can do) but it has set parameters in it that avoid freaking the PCM.

case in point. w/o standalone NO ONE has broken the 120MPH rev limiter other than those who attempted to black box it and end up flooding their engines with fuel.

As Ive never even considered it i was curious more as a tech question. in the 3L platform it is drive by wire....... that 240sx is still on the cable. how does one over come this? (not being a pain in the *** really not sure how you plan to over come this)

[BurritaSVT]

http://www.ttcautomotive.com

tell all the specs for tremetic transmission good info

the T5 is 250tq weight 75lbst45 320tq weight 105lbst56 450tq weight 115lbs

A stock 3 liter with 13 psi will put down 375tq to 400wtq with ease so I imagine that will break the T45 too I may have to just put in a T56 in the first place they put them in the vipers,corvette,cobras, etc stock plus they have closer gearing too.

I will say the t5 will be light and perfect for the NA application 30lbs means alot when we are already shedding more weight with the engine too. joey

[BurritaSVT]

I am not sure why you keep referring to the mazda 6 they use the newer CAN bus system they only have one thing in common with the motor we are putting in the car is it shares the short block and has a higher volume oil pump to support the VVT engine,

We are using a standard duratec out of a taurus, escape, mondeo, and contour. None of the engine have VVT are controlled by the mazda CAN system they have the same PCM mustang, crown victorians, maruader, lightning. taurus, contour have. The tuning is not based on the engine anyways that is the car network system. The SCT supports Ford, Dodge, Chevorlet using the OBD2 with full tuning support by us Dealers or your own PRP racing software.

How could I tune a 400whp car without tuning abilty. Look up SCT and see what cars they support you will see all the car I listed. I will be using the contour PCM or Taurus I will have a full haness out of a contour so I can wire in the OBD2 plug or be lazy in just use the chip in the PCM.

Plus just so you know the mazda 6 put down 218whp with no tuning and if your buddy was familar with Mazda6 tuning he would know that snipertuning has 4 car with the same CAN system using the handheld like mazda miata, rx 8 , etc . And as we speak they have a mazda 6 car there that is communciating with the PCM which if you knew is networked throughout the car. They are right now recording maps and system info which take months to do and are testing their changes too. So yes it can be done just tkes time but like I said we are not using the PCM code out of mazda 6.

I also have a VVT engine going into a test car using the stock PCM out of the SVT contour where I will be usign the IMRC controller to control the VVT timing using the xcal3 tuning.

I will go look up the dyno of the guy who put down 228whp with the CPE so maybe you can not take me for a joke.

Im not arguing that a simple intake upgrade didnt net a ton of power as he it has been proven. SCC(IIRC) did a dyno run on their 6 pre and post injen intake only to net 198WHP. CPE headers were stated to net you 15..... I suppose if you think a CBE will net you another 7.

as previously stated the 2.5L(contour platform) and the 3.0L are entirely different monsters. the contour platform got pwned 1/2 the time with under drive pullies as it created crank whip. with the 3.0L this issue seems to be under control with the unorthadox racing line.

the issue with the engine and making power is the tuning. the SCT tuners are just another super chip and there hasnt been a single 6 that has ever done one thing with them as the PCM is such a finicy peta that they fail. The Uni-chip and CPE MAFT are the closest anyone has really gotten to tuning on a 6. the MAFT like a SAFC in most senses but does not have any control over the injectors. The uni-chip is a burnable piggy back that has yet to show much if any upgrade to the platform. most see no more than 20HP in gains. Yes it can play with a fuel curve a slight amount(as a SAFC can do) but it has set parameters in it that avoid freaking the PCM.

case in point. w/o standalone NO ONE has broken the 120MPH rev limiter other than those who attempted to black box it and end up flooding their engines with fuel.

As Ive never even considered it i was curious more as a tech question. in the 3L platform it is drive by wire....... that 240sx is still on the cable. how does one over come this? (not being a pain in the *** really not sure how you plan to over come this)

[wa-chiss]

Hey, wasn't this motor made or designed by kawasaki?

[ca18detgabby]

I am not sure why you keep referring to the mazda 6 they use the newer CAN bus system they only have one thing in common with the motor we are putting in the car is it shares the short block and has a higher volume oil pump to support the VVT engine,

We are using a standard duratec out of a taurus, escape, mondeo, and contour. None of the engine have VVT are controlled by the mazda CAN system they have the same PCM mustang, crown victorians, maruader, lightning. taurus, contour have. The tuning is not based on the engine anyways that is the car network system. The SCT supports Ford, Dodge, Chevorlet using the OBD2 with full tuning support by us Dealers or your own PRP racing software.

How could I tune a 400whp car without tuning abilty. Look up SCT and see what cars they support you will see all the car I listed. I will be using the contour PCM or Taurus I will have a full haness out of a contour so I can wire in the OBD2 plug or be lazy in just use the chip in the PCM.

Plus just so you know the mazda 6 put down 218whp with no tuning and if your buddy was familar with Mazda6 tuning he would know that snipertuning has 4 car with the same CAN system using the handheld like mazda miata, rx 8 , etc . And as we speak they have a mazda 6 car there that is communciating with the PCM which if you knew is networked throughout the car. They are right now recording maps and system info which take months to do and are testing their changes too. So yes it can be done just tkes time but like I said we are not using the PCM code out of mazda 6.

I also have a VVT engine going into a test car using the stock PCM out of the SVT contour where I will be usign the IMRC controller to control the VVT timing using the xcal3 tuning.

I will go look up the dyno of the guy who put down 228whp with the CPE so maybe you can not take me for a joke.

218WHP and BHP is two totally different things. the 03-04 line put out 212BHP which translated into somewhere in the 180s after mazdas ****tastic trans got invovled.

didnt realize that unit didnt have the VVT system that the 6 did.

OK maybe Ive read wrong 4 times or so. you made 400HP on a 2.5L correct? if so then my point of them being DIFFERENT means that they arent the same. As I have said. Just saying it isnt the same as a contour build like most had believed.

Im not suprized someone is finally ready to attempt to crack the system as they should all be the same(not a huge computer nut, but I would think mazda as with everyone else would try to stay pretty much the same and straight forward), just saying it hasnt be released yet.

PS still wondering about that TB, maybe using a TB that isnt drive by wire? then what does the ECU do?

[BurritaSVT]

Well since my internet connection here is slow you can tell your friend to go post on the mazda6club site for the dyno results but I have the dyno results from a MSDS headers, CPE intake and SAFC MTX here so you can review it I wish I could help your buddy or friend who can't seem to muster over 200whp even with the VVT and the better exhaust valves that are used on the mondeo ST220 cars here is a mazda6 for you dyno not the CPE which are long tube headers these were short tube ones



Well enough about the confusion sorry if we got off track here but I have 10 years of duratec knowledge plus I build turbo kits for Volvos T5 but I am not here for that I wanted to get more info on the nissan platform so I can make me an my buddy one badazz rwd conversion for less than most conversions.

I appreciate the help guys and if anyone want to talk duratecs we can talk on my email [email protected]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys I always did love th 240sx my brother and I use to run autocross together and he had a 240sx 1990 and I use to love putting the car sideways unlike mine it was harder to controls slides. His car burned to the ground from a faulty relay in his car he then bought a 300zx where he sold it due to problems.

So I am looking for a second nissan 240 for myself so I can go to the 1/4 mile and tear up some other cars. But until then I will get my firends car up and running and make my conversion easier when I do make the purchase. Joey

[BurritaSVT]

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218WHP and BHP is two totally different things. the 03-04 line put out 212BHP which translated into somewhere in the 180s after mazdas ****tastic trans got invovled.

didnt realize that unit didnt have the VVT system that the 6 did.

OK maybe Ive read wrong 4 times or so. you made 400HP on a 2.5L correct? if so then my point of them being DIFFERENT means that they arent the same. As I have said. Just saying it isnt the same as a contour build like most had believed.

Im not suprized someone is finally ready to attempt to crack the system as they should all be the same(not a huge computer nut, but I would think mazda as with everyone else would try to stay pretty much the same and straight forward), just saying it hasnt be released yet.

PS still wondering about that TB, maybe using a TB that isnt drive by wire? then what does the ECU do?

The 400whp is a 3 liter only the 2.5 can do 290whp only and it runs into the pump gas problem then the ring lands are next weakest link.

The 2.5 and 3.0 are identical engine that is why we swap them on the cougars, contours, and mondeos. The bore is the only difference on the short block and the heads have extra oil drains and bigger valves.

The mazda 6 uses the wireless throttle body and the Lincoln does where the taurus, escape, and ontours still use the cables. The Contour SVT have some hot cams they are 258 degree overlap with a .018 lift with 1:8.1 rocker ratio. The heads flow redicilous numbers and that is why headers and CAI net so much power plus the taurus and mazda6 etc all have three CATS one resonator, two mufflers with 2.25" catback system but the precats manifolds hold back 15whp by themselves.

What would the car run with 220whp 210wtq in a 240sx with grip?

[keith0486]

looks pretty good keep us updated on this thing i would like to see how it turns on.

o ya more pics please

[BurritaSVT]

update:

I went ahead and ordered the 99 ford taurus split port 3.0 engine for $250 because after looking into the waterpump postion on the Taurus motor being in the back of the motor we decided to use the later 99 engine because the waterpump is in the front of the engine plus the powersteering and A/C and alternator are perfect. Basically the motor will drop right in the car with a modified cross member or custom. We located some SVT cams for better gains and will do some porting in the heads. We will utilize the tubular OEM manifolds where we will use one off of the 2004 block and one off the 99 block. The reason we are keeping the 2004 block is because we will swap the long block since it has less then 20k miles on it for only $450. I have revised list of what to expect if you do the NA swap and of course we will boost the engine afterwards.

here is a pic of the 99 block I ordered



I completely forgot about the 95--99 motors because in the FWD platform we can't use the engine unless we use a electric waterpump yikes.

I did some more research on the t5 transmission and the 250lbs torque is not engine torque there is a special formula they use to figure out the torque rating. I read where there 11-12 sec cars running 351w with stock T5 with no issues so we will test how she handles over 450 torque when we get to that point if not we will add a gear set for $1K to handle it.

Breakdown of what I bought so far

Lincoln LS motor 55k (useless beside info now) $550Taurus 2004 18k ( will be rebuild motor cheaper then rebuilding) $450Taurus 1999 70k (will be tested first then used for parts) $250T5 Mustang V6 (will be light 75 lbs) $250Flywheel Contour or Mustang? $50Clutch package $400Adapter plate (materials, bolts, labor) $150Starter mustang or LS used $35255LPH pump $85Taurus Injectors Free w/ motor 24lbs Stock OEM tubular headers Free w/ motorXcal3 $375Custom driveshaft $350Motormounts $50Revised or custom cross member $300SVT cams $150PCM and harness $100Radiator hoses $50Intake piping with 90mm MAF $150Filter K&N $50 still hoping for 200-220whp

$2800 using the 1999 block or $3250 using a fresher motor or pay extra for a low mileage 99 (hard)

Turbo kit

42lbs/min precision $279Master Power Turbo T3/T4 60 Trim $550FMIC $25044mm Wastegate $150Turbo XS BOV-H $170Boost Controller $125Coupling and T bolts $200Turbo Blanket $140piping SS$2000

Add the turbo kit less then 5k have a 400whp beast my goal let see if I can stay in that budget range which I can since i am adding prices on parts that is my labor. Joey

[EviL inside]

Hey, wasn't this motor made or designed by kawasaki?

Yamaha

[BurritaSVT]

Well it has been a long day running back in forth from the junkyard matching up parts. I had to ditch the Lincoln LS starter had totally different teeth spacing. I found out the the 350 chevy motor in the manual trucks have the same pitch in the flywheel and spacing and has the much larger 14" flywheel versus the 11" stock duratec. The flywheel is massive and tomorrow I will go have the a machinist cut me a spacer 1/2" with the duratec holes lined up along with a face plate to sandwich the flywheel 1/4" thick. I will weld the back spacer to the flywheel then go get it balanced by the other motor machinist. I will order a chevy stage 2 or 3 clutch one I find out about the spline on the ford versus chevy I may have to mix match disc. The 1999 Duratec motor will be an excellent motor I am just waiting on the PS and Alternator to get here tomorrow. We will pull the motor down change the bearings and look at the other parts for any wear. Then we will put in the SVT cams and have the motor painted to look fresh.

I am going pick up some alimunum tomorrow for the adapter plate it will end up being two plate where one bolts to the other. I may have to trim the bell housing to fit the starter better but not too much. I will have to make a 2" spacer for the LIM to allow the UIM to clear the front timing cover since we turned the intake for RWD application. I have 2" shorter distance from the original shifter to the T5 so I will have to get the engine very close to the firewall for this to work. The stock manifolds on the 1999 are perfect for our first base test. Here are a few pics of some very rough starts on the process.


Modified by BurritaSVT at 1:09 PM 5/8/2008

[n1smodr1ft]

some of your pics arent working and i wanna see!

[idahotuner]

NO one caught the OP mistake.

that isnta SKYLINE it is a 240 man.

[BurritaSVT]

Well I had to ditch the chevy flywheel because it uses a larger spline for it's clutch. I ordered a mustang 3.8 flywheel plusI bought a stock clutch to test the NA runs. I a having he spacer made right now hopefully I will have a new pic this weekend for everyone. JOey

[tonynalli]

I belive he said Skyline bodykit

[sommmatt]

NO one caught the OP mistake.

that isnta SKYLINE it is a 240 man.

Someone read the thread? I was just looking for badass pics.