Bring back dueling

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Discussing anachronistic forms of punishment from the way back days today it occured to me that there is one dusty idea I would like to see make a comeback, dueling.

I'm not trying to be humorous, I'm dead serious.

Part of the problem with our society, as I see it, is a lack of respect for each other. There are several reasons for this. Th erosion of family units, the complete lack of responsible parenting in an increasing segment of the demographic, schools teaching rote memorization over real learning and cognitive development, all manner of institutions whitewashing hard facts of life through trophies for participation and the underplay or complete elimination of winners and losers, and the rising welfare state that understandably grows from this offering to provide for all your needs while "the other guy" pays for it.

Well, as someone who considers himself that guy, let me offer you this. f*** YOU!

Back on topic, respect. the elimination of basic respect for others has led to a soiety of people who think they are entitled to all manner of things with no input on their part. Money, posessions, entertainment, general happiness, and ironically enough success and respect. that one makes me chuckle. The thing they were taught was bad and the thing they offer nobody else in kind, they demand. Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

While certainly the resumption of that age old honorific system practiced by gentlemen of old to settle disputes cannot cure all societies ills, I propose it could definitely cultivate improved manners and at least affectations of respect. Think about this. You are in a club and some guy grabs your lady. What often happens, a fight, destruction of property, criminal charges and lives skewed off course. There is a certain well-considered feeling amongst many people that they can get away with quite a bit if they can come right up to the line without crossing it. It's a game of jerk chicken. I freely admit that I have been the antagonist myself, pushing someone's buttons with impunity because I knew they were either afraid of me or afraid of what would happen if they flipped and threw a punch. I have also been that guy, intimidated into silence or reluctantly leaving the can of whoop a** unopened.

Perhaps the nanny state has turned us not into sissys but a society of chess-playing smartasses who talk a good game, but if there was a means to reconcile disputes without getting in trouble would be a hell of a lot nicer to each other.

Let's go back to the scenario I illustrated before. Some guy disrespects your lady. You are cool and she doesn't want you acting dumb either so you say "Hey buddy, leave her alone." He says, "f*** you, I'll kick your a**." You sigh and say "Tuesday at 6 PM at the designated spot." He realizes he's gone too far, you are ready to square off with him. Here's the thing, this isn't him and his buddies against you in the parking lot. This is him and you on the field with whatever rules are agreed to and no cops get involved, nobody gets charged with anything if the challenge is accepted and if he kills your a** that's just what happens. Me, I'd probably apologize, but for the wannabe badass here's what I propose happens.

Rule #1
The offended party who issues the challenge must identify what has transgressed and what would be acceptable restitution to retract the challenge. Challenges for rediculous things like you took my last twinkie out of the fridge will be discussed later.

Rule #2
If the restitution is too much or if the challenged person feels they are in the right, they may accept. They will have the choice of means of duel. It could be anything and it doesn't have to be violent, but challenging someone to a game of ping pong would seem rather rediculous.

Rule #3
The issuer of the challenge must accept the terms of the challenged or they must retract the challenge. True, this means a huge dude could insist on a fist fight in which case you might have to withdraw, but that already happens now so it's not much of a problem and if you are one of those badass little dudes you can break him off some without going to jail.

Rule #4
Obviously, this system has potential problems. Gun duels over David Lee Roth -vs- Sammy Hagar could be seen, but you know, that's a really dumb thing to get that pissed about so maybe those two idiots need to shoot it out. At least there will be one less idiot out there at the end. Seriously, though, there should be an official mechanism for examining the validity of challenges to try to keep them reasonable. The method of restitution should be open for discussion especially if it deals with a monetary value of some kind. There should be a minimum two day cooling off period regardless of this to allow tempers to calm down.

That's about it. He smacked your girls a**, you told him to chill, he said f-u, you challenged him, he said baseball bats, you accepted, it's been two days and now you are standing before him bat at the ready. Either you will decide your girls a** is not worth getting your head beat in or he will. One less jerk in the world or perhaps, he decides, "my bad man." either way we win. It't just an idea. Want to fight about it?

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Love slap, baby love slap.

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I shall meet you in the hallway of honor, sir!

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A glove slap in a little old face will
Get you satisfaction.
Glove slap ba-a-beee ...
(Glove slap, baby)
Glove slap, baby, glove slap!
Glove slap, I don't take crap!
Glove slap, shut your big yap.

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Not sure if you are calling me out or, ahem, inviting me in. :naughty:

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Make all duels with whiffle ball bats. No need to establish any terms, just make the challenge and when it's made everyone already knows what's involved. That way the offender can retract his offense there on the spot. It would just make things easier and who wouldn't want to watch guys fvcking wail on each other with whiffle ball bats.

Think about the guys going to work the next day all welted up. I'd bet we could market this Mike. I know I'd pay to watch...PPV Whiffle Ball Bat Dueling. Hell we could get with Dana White and use the UFC octogons.

While we're on this weird sort of topic, did you guys watch that show Full Metal Jousting?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWVZgp-eQG8[/youtube]

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I thought this was the purpose of paintball...

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I play airsoft myself, but paintball is wicked fun also.

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I remember BB gun wars in the neighborhood.

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No eye protection right? I look back and stand in awe on how I still have two intact eyeballs.

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s0m3th1ngAZ wrote:No eye protection right? I look back and stand in awe on how I still have two intact eyeballs.
No doubt. From bottle rockets to bb guns :crazy:

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s0m3th1ngAZ wrote:No eye protection right? I look back and stand in awe on how I still have two intact eyeballs.
No doubt. I'm lucky I made it through childhood. If you know what this is, congratulations for surviving "the game."

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I know right! Go stand over there on that end of the yard with this circle, I'll stand over here. Now lets take turns throwing these dudes WAY up into the air at each other in the hope of getting it in that little ring.

No safety equipment to speak of...ever.

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themadscientist wrote:
s0m3th1ngAZ wrote:No eye protection right? I look back and stand in awe on how I still have two intact eyeballs.
No doubt. I'm lucky I made it through childhood. If you know what this is, congratulations for surviving "the game."

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I routinely check yard & garage sales for this gem from my childhood.

Still looking. :frown:

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Closest thing I could find, they appear to have plastic tips though...the wuss version.

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Weak! I want darts so deadly Obama wants to ban them!

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Ahh, bottle rocket wars and lawn darts.....anyone else remember having the curtain rods and using them like swords?

And what I wouldn't give for a 3 wheeler, you can't find them anymore because idiots kept wrecking on them, but were so much more fun to ride that a damned 4 wheeler

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I don't know if they were funner then a 4 wheeler, but they were fun for sure. Another example of the Gov "keeping us safe" from ourselves.


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