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Hey guys, looking for some advice here.

I'm tired of lugging around my laptop in between classes to record lecture notes on it. It's a normal 15" computer, but it's just too bulky to carry around campus. Also, I'm not that great at keeping track of handwritten notes, and it just gets too messy.

Since I don't need to replace my laptop anytime soon, I got this bright idea for a tablet. Along with note taking, I'll most likely be able to get online copies of my books in the next few semesters, which will save me a lot of $$$$. The main thing though is the note taking. I've done quite a bit of research, but there's not too much out there as far as Android tablet apps. I'm trying to stay away from an Ipad but they already have a few established apps just for that purpose.

What I am leaning towards though is the Sony Tablet S.

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It's either that or the Galaxy, but everything I've been reading has been giving the edge to the Sony.

ANYWAYS, does anyone have any first hand experience with this stuff? It would be great if they had an app that recognizes handwritten material and converts it to text, but there's really nothing like that for Android, and iirc the last people to do that was windows. Until that happens, I'm just debating getting a tiny keyboard to use during class....

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I have an Android based tablet, and I couldn't imagine taking notes on the thing...or any tablet for that matter. My whole programming class got Xoom's for free and there may be 1 or 2 of them who use their xooms to take notes on. There's 2 or 3 that regularly use their laptops, and everyone else uses paper...or sleeps.

So to recap, I can't recommend an android to take notes on.

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My father in law just picked up the Sony tablet and loves it, but to me it's no different than any other Android tablet. The Acer Iconia and the Asus Transformer are the best buys for the money right now in Android form. That being said, battery life sucks on all of them, it's just something you learn to live with. The specs are the same across the board with any current android tablet right now though, the only thing different between them are cameras and some screens, but the speed is identical on all of them.

I have an iPad and not being biased at all, it's the best tablet on the market for the money. The battery life is phenomenal and the apps available are endless. There's still nothing that compares IMHO, but if you're just looking to take notes and basic functions, don't waste your money on the Sony. It's the same thing specs wise as tablets $100-200 cheaper, so you're paying for the name and the few extra features it offers. It also has a special power/docking connect, that's different from everything else, so you have to buy specific chargers and Ect for it. The other android tabs use the standard micro USB connection, so it's a lot easier to find stuff for.

So, in summary: The Sony tab is a waste of money, buy an iPad, Asus Transformer, or Acer Iconia and be happier, along with saving a few bucks.

The first gen iPads start at $349 now through Apple, just as a note too. I love mine personally and I used it to type all of this.

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Also, I have a case for my iPad that elevates it a bit in landscape mode and makes the on screen keyboard almost as easy to type on as a normal keyboard. I've used other tablets and own an HP Touchpad too but none of their touch screens are as accurate to type on as the iPad. If you plan on taking notes and don't want an iPad, I'd suggest picking up a Bluetooth keyboard.

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I like the Sony tablet's display quality and shape.

There's a few iPad apps for note taking:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/note-tak ... 72045?mt=8
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/notes-pl ... 11477?mt=8

I use a combination of laptop + pen and paper. I put words down faster on the lappy, and objects come across better on paper.

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lol I was ganna say pencil & paper.

Doesnt Amazon or someone like that have their own tablet starting at like $150 depending on memory.

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I'm trying to understand how a tablet is good for note-taking?

I mean, notes are usually written down, right? And typing isn't good enough?

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^ yeah thats how I feel. You can draw any pictures and lebels you need on a piece of paper. Maybe I is just old skoo yo

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Meh, I'm old school. I used pen and paper as well. Nothing better than it and it's not heavy at all. I have learned though, that the 5 star mead spirals are awesome.

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You're probably better off sticking to a Windows Tablet with a digitizer. There reason has to do with both the hardware and the software options that are available with Android and iOS.


Hardware:
Only the new Lenovo Idea Pad has a digitizer built-in. None of the Android offerings do nor does the iPad. While you can get a capacitive touch pen, the problem there is it is an on/off sensory and can't tell the difference between the pen and your palm. Most people write better with their palm resting on the writing surface and that can be hell with a capacitive touchscreen. A digitizer will eliminate that problem and is responsive to pressure so your strokes will feel much more organic in that you can create thin to thick lines within the range of your chosen brush tip size. My HP TM2T has a digitizer and a capacitive touchscreen built-in. The digitizer allows me to write with the pen and then I can use my fingers to scroll or zoom. This makes for very simple navigation.

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Arguably, one of the best note taking programs out there is Microsoft OneNote. Not only does it provide you with a lot of tools for drawing and writing, but it also helps you to organize much like a notebook. And a huge advantage here is you can hide and open notebooks as you please so notes from old classes that you have stored on your hard drive will always be available. This can be really helpful when you need to refer back to concepts from a previous class. iOS does have a version of this software, but the iPad doesn't offer the digitizer input. And while it may be possible technically to use the Lenovo, Android lacks any really good software choices for note taking. I can't remember which, but one comes awfully close in that it can read OneNote files (perhaps add to existing notes) but offers no ability to create new notebooks or pages IIRC.

I know my HP can handle the task well and of course it is notably bulkier than the current Android and Apple tablets, but having owned the Xoom, Transformer and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which I still have), it still blows the Android Tablets out of the water as far as practical use for notetaking is concerned. And since its a convertible tablet, it still functions quite well as a laptop so I also won't have to worry about compatibility issues with some of the software I need for school either.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the convenience of a thinner and lighter tablet but ultimately, until Android has OneNote, I'll stick with my Windows laptop for sure. With my need to run programs that aren't available on Android, I'll probably not have much of a choice anyways. . I haven't shopped around or kept up with any of the current crop of Windows Tablets (both slate and convertible) so I don't know what other hardware options there really are at the moment, but I can't recommend the iPad or any Android tablet at the moment.
Dattebayo wrote:I'm trying to understand how a tablet is good for note-taking?

I mean, notes are usually written down, right? And typing isn't good enough?
Typing doesn't work well for math and science based courses. I'm pretty good at typing equations in word, but I would still struggle at keeping up with the lectures if I tried to do that. Not to mention, its not easy to draw with a mouse and keyboard. I have to draw lots of diagrams in my courses. The biggest reason I decided to put all my notes in a computer is because my last year at community college, my notes for the semester took up more space than my books. As I mentioned before, I can now carry all my prior notes with me without taking up any extra space. And in the case a friend misses class and needs to copy my notes, it no longer requires me to give them my notebook for any period of time. I just print the notes for that day to PDF and email it to them. Lastly, have you ever had a professor that jumped around the board a lot while lecturing. Perhaps adding more notes to an area you didn't leave enough space on your paper for? I can add space. I can also copy or move notes around. Works great when my professors reuse diagrams that are already on the board. While everyone is quickly trying to redraw the diagram in the new configuration, I just copy and paste it into a new spot and modify the drawing. The only disadvantage for me is that my writing is a little worse on the tablet. My sister, who has the same laptop and much better writing, uses it to teach with (geometry) and has no issues writing neatly though. I think it has to do with the slick surface. I tend to use layers of paper and press down kind of hard with a pen when I write on paper and that helps slow me down. But with the tablet, I also tend to feel less fatigue in my writing hand since I'm using a lighter touch...

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Physically transcribing a piece of information theoretically allows it to sink into your memory more effectively. That is, at least, the case with me. However, I find it easier to study from typed notes.


Also, typing on a Thinkpad is an effing pleasure and a privilege.

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If you go Android, Classic Notes Lite is the way to go. Combine with a good keyboard or well-tuned Swype and you should be taking notes fairly efficiently. Notes Lite has some really cool extras, many of which are perfect for use in school.

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Thanks guys for the help. :)
C-Kwik wrote: Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the convenience of a thinner and lighter tablet but ultimately, until Android has OneNote, I'll stick with my Windows laptop for sure.
My thoughts exactly.

I've been messing around with a bunch of tablets and apps and you guys are right, there's nothing out there that really works, WELL. Both of my roomates have Ipads and the apps/support for those is exponentially better than for android tablets. As much as I dislike Apple, there's really nothing that can stand toe to toe with them right now.

For note taking only, I'll probably just stick with my laptop, for now. I might pick up a copy of OneNote if I get really annoyed. I just need to keep my notes organized digitally so I can study them later. That usually involves transferring them down to paper as that's how I study them.

If I do pick up a tablet though, it'll either be the Sony or an Ipad. I'm also just thinking about picking up a used first gen Ipad and waiting for something really cool to come out. The tablet market is just now starting to gain traction....

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:For note taking only, I'll probably just stick with my laptop, for now. I might pick up a copy of OneNote if I get really annoyed. I just need to keep my notes organized digitally so I can study them later. That usually involves transferring them down to paper as that's how I study them.

If I do pick up a tablet though, it'll either be the Sony or an Ipad. I'm also just thinking about picking up a used first gen Ipad and waiting for something really cool to come out. The tablet market is just now starting to gain traction....
That's probably the best thing honestly, because if I have to type anything of length, I use my laptop. I hate my wife's netbook even, mainly because it's so tiny. My iPad handles basic typing just fine, but I can still be a ton more accurate on my laptop and type A LOT faster(unless I use the bluetooth keyboard with the iPad).

The first gen iPad is an excellent value, at $349(or less on Craigslist and ect) you can't get anything that's nearly as good. My father in law bought an iPad 2 before getting the Sony Tablet S and I couldn't tell enough difference between my first gen and it to warrant spending the extra money.

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A33 wrote:My father in law just picked up the Sony tablet and loves it, but to me it's no different than any other Android tablet. The Acer Iconia and the Asus Transformer are the best buys for the money right now in Android form. That being said, battery life sucks on all of them, it's just something you learn to live with. The specs are the same across the board with any current android tablet right now though, the only thing different between them are cameras and some screens, but the speed is identical on all of them.

I have an iPad and not being biased at all, it's the best tablet on the market for the money. The battery life is phenomenal and the apps available are endless. There's still nothing that compares IMHO, but if you're just looking to take notes and basic functions, don't waste your money on the Sony. It's the same thing specs wise as tablets $100-200 cheaper, so you're paying for the name and the few extra features it offers. It also has a special power/docking connect, that's different from everything else, so you have to buy specific chargers and Ect for it. The other android tabs use the standard micro USB connection, so it's a lot easier to find stuff for.

So, in summary: The Sony tab is a waste of money, buy an iPad, Asus Transformer, or Acer Iconia and be happier, along with saving a few bucks.

The first gen iPads start at $349 now through Apple, just as a note too. I love mine personally and I used it to type all of this.
Sold thats awesome! If i ever get a tablet i will definatley be a ipad.. Think about it like this OP the i phone is such a success i mean proabably the best phone ever produced PPL were dropping their plans to go be able to get an iphone it revolutionized the way we use phones.

Here is my thoughts: Get an ipad because you know its well built/ well designed...
(i am completely un biased because i dont have a lab top or a tablet)

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A33 wrote: My father in law bought an iPad 2 before getting the Sony Tablet S and I couldn't tell enough difference between my first gen and it to warrant spending the extra money.
The 2 in the name was apparently enough for most idiots...er people. :)

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I agree with this. I tried takings notes on an electronic device and it was WAY more hassle than it was worth, plus you have the distraction of having an electronic device. Besides, you may end up printing them off anyway.

I had a different notebook for every class, and I still have my stacks of spiral notebooks from all my classes.. You can carry around 5 notebooks and it still takes up less space and weight....... plus, you have less to worry about if you spill tasty beverages on notebooks... :spitout:

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I also agree with pen and paper. Plus, the physical act of recording information helps it carve a place in your brain. You will retain what you write better than what you type.

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I hate Apple, we bought our first iPad this weekend. Target is giving away a $40 gift card (think free iPad case) with any iPad purchase. I have a Target redcard thats linked to checking when I use it Target gives me 5% back and I had a pharmacy reward 1 day 5% off. So I bought the 32gig wifi and got $60 off in the 10% discount and a free case.

Its for my wife. It appears to be much better then anything android.

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Statistics show that typing notes does almost nothing to imprint a memory of the information in your brain. Pen and paper is the way to go. My 4.0 is proof of that. :yesnod

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Wow, this thread is back? :)

Anyways, since I've been in college a little longer, I couldn't agree more. For classes I have to care about, you're right, nothing beats pen and paper. If I have to type them to keep up, I find myself copying them later by hand to memorize them. I have a 13" Mac now (way better than my old Dell) and Evernote is a great program to organize your notes with.

I usually end up writing the notes out multiple times anyways to study before a test. The way my brain works, I can't just read them to study because I end up getting distracted. Sometimes I'll copy down the same notes 3-4 times before I feel I've studied enough.

I'd still like to get a tablet though, but mainly just for my textbooks. A lot of them I can get eBooks of (or just torrent them). An Ipad mini or something similar would be great for that. Books are absurdly expensive but that's a whole other topic on its own....

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Whatever you do, don't buy a damn Windows Tablet RT. Artificially limited "app" support, a terrible GUI, and they're battery-hungry and heavy. Oh, and the pricetags. Eurgh.

As for notepad vs electronics...I agree that pen and paper is bettery for memory. Sadly, I write slowly and have illegible handwriting, but type extremely fast, so paper doesn't work as well as I'd like. It's hard for notes to assist in retention when I can't read what the @#$% I wrote 4 hours earlier.

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I use notepads and Evernote at work, but 90% of everything ends up on a notepad first. Important things that I want to be able to easily find later gets transferred to a document or Evernote.

I rarely use my tablet for anything outside of basic web browsing, social networking, videos, and light gaming. I honestly don't think i've ever used it to take any type of notes, because it takes too long to do it when I need to jot down something. For editing documents it's not bad either though.

I personally have an Asus Transformer with Android 4.2 and it rocks. I picked it up on sale for $239 and it has most of the specs you see in current tablets aside from maybe being slightly slower.

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I hate hate HATE tablet-based textbooks, and not just because I make my living from paper textbooks.

As a fairly recent student who may be going back for grad school, I find that it's annoying to flip through an ebook and keep good notes. I use post-its, colored sticky things, and pencils to write all over the pages. I recently discovered the same with magazines and switched all of my Zinio e-mag subscriptions back to print that arrives in the mail.

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Really? I love when a textbook is in electronic format. It makes navigating it so much easier. Yeah, a print book is much more convenient (especially since I don't have a tablet) but nothing is nicer than using Ctrl + F. Saved me SO much time in my Business Stats class, which by the way, is the worst class known to man.

I try not to write in my textbooks because I sell most of them after the semester is over. .... :couch

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I still stand by my pen and paper. I'll be taking a 400 level engineering stats class this summer (my 300 level wasn't good enough I guess) and you better believe i'll be all over that wide ruled paper.

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I tell all the students I tutor, "write everything down, kill some trees, we'll plant more". It Works.

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I don't know how I'd survive my engineering courses using a tablet. Plus, I'd just end up hopping on the wifi and zone out.

My pre-calc classes were all taken with e-books. HATED it. I can search a paper book so much faster.

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Hijacker wrote:My pre-calc classes were all taken with e-books. HATED it. I can search a paper book so much faster.
I have one circuits book on my tablet. I like it since I didn't use the book for much more than homework problems. Most all teaching was done on the board, written in my notebook, and referenced later. If I had to use the book a lot, then paper is the way to go.


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