Before I order

[vikesfankevin1986]

I wanted to get some stuff but I figued I should ask here first. I wanted to get this...
http://www.importpartspro.com/z1ssdduinni3.html
I figured I would get 2 of these to keep the air flow even.
http://www.importpartspro.com/jwtpopchrefi1.html
And obviously this
http://www.importpartspro.com/sedumaftr90n.html
Is this all I need? I want to make sure I am not missing anything.
Thanks

[vulcanrush]

if you're going to get the selin maf translator, why not get their elbow pack as well, it might even save you some money?

the doolz, i'm not a fan of.

i think you might also need a second maf.

[ztommyx]

i'd get this:


cost: $68.00 versus $225. but thats just me.

[vikesfankevin1986]

Well the thing I do like about the Doolz is where they are positioned and the color. I am going to get that nose peice in this link. http://www.kingz32parts.com/product_inf ... ucts_id=74
I thought it would look really good with that. So unless there is a performance disadvantage I will probably go that route.
Can someone verify if I would need another MAF?
Money is an issue and my wife doesn't know I am doing this and would not approve.

I won't do it if I need another MAF and it is very important I get everything I need. I don't want to get like the popcharger replacement and then find out I actually needed the full JWT popcharger. I don't know what I need. Thats why I value the info you all give me on this site.

[vikesfankevin1986]

That is A LOT cheaper...and I don't have the nose pannel yet...

[vikesfankevin1986]

What would that look like in the car? Is that what they have in the pic in the link to the nose peice?

[Z31toZ32]

if you are tight on cash, im not sure why you are considering a dual. the dual has no benefit unless you are 500+ rwhp. id imagine if you are short on dough, you arent going to be doing a rebuild anytime soon so that takes that out of the question.

just stick with a single and save some cash.

[vikesfankevin1986]

I get my signing bonus next summer, then I will be doing the major upgrades. I wanted to try and get a few of the things done before then.
As far as it giving not benifit, everyone has a different opinion. Jim Wolf thinks it doesnt do anything or it shouldn't be done until the turbos are upgraded but Steve Millin thinks other wise.
I have had people tell me on here that there is a noticable difference with the duals on any car...

[ztommyx]

yes, thats correct. it only benefit you if you have over 500HP, like me, but i don't even have a true dual intake.

looks like this:


if you're going all out, i'd get that kit with the salin and a true MAF along with upgraded ecu.
thats all you would ever need.

because i have a FMIC (less room up front), i have this on mine:

[vikesfankevin1986]

I mean I could do something else like water injection or just not do anything yet. I will not beable to get my bumper repainted or anything right now like I was planning because I promised the wife I wouldn't because she was pissed off I am buying tires. She thinks I don't need tires because it has tires on the stock rims that I can drive on. She doesnt understand that those tires turn into butter when my turbos kick in...she doesnt know how to make a car go over 3,000 rpms...

[vikesfankevin1986]

hmmm ok I guess I will wait on that. I just want to try and get as much does as I can before because I will only have around 7,500 dollars and that is pushing it to cover just the parts...

[NolimitZ32]

yes, thats correct. it only benefit you if you have over 500HP, like me, but i don't even have a true dual intake.

Not true, there is about 30whp difference from single to dual pop on a dyno tuned 300zx with stock turbos. Check out this thread.

http://twinturbo.net/nissan/300zx/forum ... e-III.html

[vikesfankevin1986]

Man that is kind of hard to argue. That has me fired up! I was thinking it might give me 10hp but if I could get 20 or even 30, I think my friends Mustang will be hurting. Since I had my car dyno'd at 305 rwhp and 318 rwtq, I had had my cats removed and in a couple of weeks I will have a new clutch/flywheel, 4 piece underdrive pulley set and overdrive pulley. The underdrive pulley is said to add 10-18 hp and I would imagine having the other pulleys it would add closer to 18. That would be sweet to get 40 hp or more. I will need to all to keep up with his 326rwhp Stang.

[vikesfankevin1986]

If I got that would I NEED to get the car tuned? I know it would be better to. This is the place I would be going to http://www.rs-motorsinc.com/services.php
This is the cost I would be looking at and this wouldnt include installing the intake. I would imagine I would want to do a run before and after I put the intake on. I don't think it would take more than an hour to tune, but then again I know nothing about tuning.
Base Run $60 2 Runs
Additional Runs $15
Wide Band O2 $35 One time per session fee to hook up Wide Band O2 for Air/Fuel info.
Tuning (2WD) $140/hr Doesn't include strapping fee and Wide Band O2. See chart below for EMS list.

It looks like it would cost around 250 bucks to have this all done, so is it needed?

[Initial_Z]

Not true, there is about 30whp difference from single to dual pop on a dyno tuned 300zx with stock turbos. Check out this thread.

http://twinturbo.net/nissan/300zx/forum ... e-III.html

i'd get this:


cost: $68.00 versus $225. but thats just me.

Where can I order this ? I still need a MAF stranslator right ?

[ztommyx]

ztommyx: yes, thats correct. it only benefit you if you have over 500HP, like me, but i don't even have a true dual intake.


Not true, there is about 30whp difference from single to dual pop on a dyno tuned 300zx with stock turbos. Check out this thread.

http://twinturbo.net/nissan/300zx/forum ... e-III.html

thats with the selin kit...

true dual intake. maybe not.

[vikesfankevin1986]

But if I get the selin kit can I expect similar numbers?

[NolimitZ32]

thats with the selin kit...

true dual intake. maybe not.

I dont see why it wouldn't be the same with the kit you posted, it looks like the same hardware and I'm sorry but unless your doing R&D like they do in F1 and NASCAR then a pipe is a pipe and a coupler is a coupler.

But if I get the selin kit can I expect similar numbers?

If you get the selin kit and all the other upgrades mentioned in that thread then I dont see why it wouldnt atleast be close but you gotta understand that car is tuned for everything on a dyno, you wont get those numbers with a base map.

[vikesfankevin1986]

So I guess does that answer this question I posted earlier?
If I got that would I NEED to get the car tuned? I know it would be better to. This is the place I would be going to http://www.rs-motorsinc.com/services.php
This is the cost I would be looking at and this wouldnt include installing the intake. I would imagine I would want to do a run before and after I put the intake on. I don't think it would take more than an hour to tune, but then again I know nothing about tuning.
Base Run $60 2 Runs
Additional Runs $15
Wide Band O2 $35 One time per session fee to hook up Wide Band O2 for Air/Fuel info.
Tuning (2WD) $140/hr Doesn't include strapping fee and Wide Band O2. See chart below for EMS list.

It looks like it would cost around 250 bucks to have this all done, so is it needed?

If I did this tune could I expect those numbers? I have about a stage 3 car like the one they did the dyno on, actually at the time I will have pulleys too.

[Z32TT]

if you are tight on cash, im not sure why you are considering a dual. the dual has no benefit unless you are 500+ rwhp. id imagine if you are short on dough, you arent going to be doing a rebuild anytime soon so that takes that out of the question.

just stick with a single and save some cash.

The Selin is actually worth converting to a true dual instead of single regardless where your HP ranges at, A Dool with a Dummy maf is different story no point of going that route then unless your pushing higher numbers.

[NolimitZ32]

Ive never had any of my cars tuned, I've always gotten base maps and tweaked on the street so I cant tell you if the place is good or cheap or expensive or w/e, as far as needing to tune YES you must tune for a dual intake, any dual intake.

[ztommyx]

I dont see why it wouldn't be the same with the kit you posted, it looks like the same hardware and I'm sorry but unless your doing R&D like they do in F1 and NASCAR then a pipe is a pipe and a coupler is a coupler.


vikesfankevin1986: But if I get the selin kit can I expect similar numbers?

If you get the selin kit and all the other upgrades mentioned in that thread then I dont see why it wouldnt atleast be close but you gotta understand that car is tuned for everything on a dyno, you wont get those numbers with a base map.

it's the same dual intake kit but not with the selin.


every car is different, no two cars output are the same even with the same upgrades.

[vikesfankevin1986]

Ok last question about this topic. Is this all I will need...
http://www.selindesign.net/parts.html
http://www.selindesign.net/electronics.html
http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_in ... ts_id=2817
Do I only need this replacement filter and will this one work or will I need something more?
Thanks

[vulcanrush]

i'm no expert, but it seems to me before getting the selin or any dual-intake, please make sure your ecu is tuned for it, and make sure your fuel system can deliver enough fuel.

i prefer to go bottoms-up, for example, before getting upgraded turbo's, strengthen the engine, etc.

the reason is because, on paper, dual-intakes = more air, right?

make sure you have the right afr (air-fuel-ratios)? you don't want to run too lean.

do you have stock injectors?

[vikesfankevin1986]

I have come to the conclusion that I will need to get it tuned, which means it will be a few months before I have the money to get it and do the tune. Next summer I get my signing bonus and thats when I want to go all out.

I am planning on dual intake/MAF, Intercooler, water injection, fuel injectors, exhaust manifold, down pipes, test pipes, turbos and boost control. Possibly cams(I am not sure how much benifit they offer on a Z but they made my friends mustang pretty sick)

Am I missing anything major there? It was my hopes to try and get one or two of those things done before next summer. I was thinking dual air and intercooler. If I did not do intercooler I would do fuel injectors.

[JDMZ32]

If you're planning on Doolz, I'd go with ASH. They've been doing a lot to improve the business later and I'm totally supporting them. But like they said, they say no big difference til around 485HP. But you said you'll be doing major upgrades . Just my two cents. For an extra cent, if I'm not mistaken, Ash was the first one to even produce the Doolz. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[vikesfankevin1986]

Ok last question about this topic. Is this all I will need...
http://www.selindesign.net/parts.html
http://www.selindesign.net/electronics.html
http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_in ... ts_id=2817
Do I only need this replacement filter and will this one work or will I need something more?
Thanks

I think I will just go with the Selin but I still need this question answered. Do I only need replacement filters with this set up or do I need to order something more?