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Another Nico Exclusive!!!!! P430 and P420 codes............

Postby body80 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:22 pm


Disclaimer:
This is bad for the environment........ Do what nissan says and replaced Both Catalytic converter to the tune of over $2000...
Oh and if you break anything doing this cheaper fix it's not my fault. What worked for me may not work for you.

P420??? P430??????????????
Catalyst system efficiency below threshhold Bank 1 or 2...............right????????????????????

I have a crazy fix for this code but first alittle background.

I started throwing P430 which is the same code as you but for Bank 2 side. I played with it for months resetting the code and paying attention to when it would come back on. I can watch the O2 sensors with my scan tool and could tell from the freeze frame of the code it was only tripping the code because the efficiency was just barely out of tolerance every now and then. (HELL IT COULD BE BECAUSE OF THE 10% ETHANOL CRAP IN THE FUEL NOW!) Now sometimes I can drive a month and sometimes only a few days before the light would come on. Which basically means my Catalytic converters were only bad from an environment stand point and just barely. There's not anything really wrong with the pathfinder.

N-E-ways.... The BIG dollar fix is to replace back Catalytic converters which would cost quite a bit. Or trick the ECU into thinking that everything was just fine.
I choice the cheaper route. Only cost my $10 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Here's what you need.
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Buy a package of non foulers, Start small and slowly enlarge the hole all the way up to a 1/2" drill bit.

Now pull the rear O2 sensors and install the non-fouler onto the O2 sensor and then screw it back into the exhaust. I did it to both sides so they are the same. Everything only took my about 30 minutes.
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Now the theory behind it is the O2 sensor is now pulled out of the direct stream of exhaust gases. Because of this it's seeing less of a sample of exhaust gases. Rear O2 sensors are not used to adjust air/fuel ratios. It's there for government emissions measuring. Now that it's seeing less of the bad stuff it's sending that signal to the ECU and the ECU likes it.

So far I've driven 8000 miles with this fix and haven't had a single problem and there's been NO LIGHT ON.
Fuel mileage didn't change AT ALL.

It worked for me!
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE
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Re: Another Nico Exclusive!!!!! P430 and P420 codes........

Postby amaff » Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:10 am

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Re: Another Nico Exclusive!!!!! P430 and P420 codes........

Postby alexf20c » Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:45 am

Nico Exclusive?

this trick has been around for YEARS.
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Re: Another Nico Exclusive!!!!! P430 and P420 codes........

Postby Pwnin O'Brien » Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:33 am

Would this mess up your air/fuel ratio (if used on the pre-cat sensors)?
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Re: Another Nico Exclusive!!!!! P430 and P420 codes........

Postby alexf20c » Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:13 am

it would totally jack up your AFR if you use it on the upstream sensors. if you have a bad upstream O2S, it should be replaced ASAP.

the computer will accommodate a bad upstream O2S by using the downstream O2S to calculate AFR and adjust fuel mixture to stoichiometric, but it's not very precise and your fuel economy will surely suffer.

never use a simulator or spark plug non fouler on an upstream (pre-cat) oxygen sensor.
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Re: Another Nico Exclusive!!!!! P430 and P420 codes........

Postby body80 » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:09 pm

alexf20c wrote:it would totally jack up your AFR if you use it on the upstream sensors. if you have a bad upstream O2S, it should be replaced ASAP.

the computer will accommodate a bad upstream O2S by using the downstream O2S to calculate AFR and adjust fuel mixture to stoichiometric, but it's not very precise and your fuel economy will surely suffer.

never use a simulator or spark plug non fouler on an upstream (pre-cat) oxygen sensor.

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I agree 100% Do not do this to the upstream O2 sensors.

I'm sure the trick has been around for a long time. When I was having this problem I searched the internet for hours and never found a solution to codes P420 or P430. I was getting super frustrated because nissan told me it would be $2600 to fix it. Lucky for me my brother suggested this idea to me and it worked.
The Main purpose for this thread is now when something googles P420 or P430 and pathfinder it'll bring them to this thread and they now will have another option to try and fix it.
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Re: Another Nico Exclusive!!!!! P430 and P420 codes........

Postby Ryman » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:57 pm

k so i have everything to do this little mod but i went under my car and have no idea where to look for my downstream o2 sensor...... could you guys help me out? it's inline with all my exhaust piping? i have to take off some piping to get to it or am i looking in the wrong place? trying to do this before the sun goes down here so if you have any ideas then shoot thanks
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Re: Another Nico Exclusive!!!!! P430 and P420 codes........

Postby Ryman » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:31 pm

FOUND IT!!!! just had to look around for a while...............
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