5-spd noisy - need help

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emoze
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have a late FS5W71B that is really noisy in neutral at idle :facepalm:

- loud gnashing and growling noises - noises go away when clutch is depressed, but can also be heard when coasting in 1st-2nd with clutch out; there were no shifting problems; T.O. brg is perfect

I have studied the manual section from the database - concluded it was an internal problem, and begun dis-assembly

i have removed both housing sections and have the center plate mounted on vise with a home-made adapter

all the "end" bearings that mount in the housings are butter smooth and not noisy, gears all perfect, baulk rings look fine

- nothing obvious as a potential source of all the noise :squint:

- can't tell about the center bearings yet, and i have to check all the clearances before i start taking it all apart

but before i do that, does anyone have some ideas based on your experience as to what i should be looking for and expecting to find??? :gotme

curiously, i had this box installed a few yrs ago & it was not noisy when i pulled it out back then - it's been in dry storage ever since, standing on its nose :confused:

all advice & tips appreciated, including links to other threads on this, as well as best parts sources

TIA


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themadscientist
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Are you sure it's the box and not an engine bearing? Depressing the clutch side loads your thrust bearing in your engine and might be why the noise goes away.

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I'd look at the input shaft bearing on the transmission. In my experience, that's what it's been.

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sakurachuck
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Mine had the same symptoms. It was my countershaft bearing - right below the reverse idler. My reverse idler gear was torn up a bit, metal into the countershaft bearing, countershaft bearing = toast... The previous user(s) of this transmission had apparently been grinding into reverse. Get the rebuild kit, replace all the bearings.

I am overly cautious about shifting into reverse now.

emoze
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have it completely apart - none of the bearings exhibit any roughness to account for the noise

- i bought the BK104 kit from O'Reilly's and got it today - it is a comprehensive kit, with all the correct brgs (56mm yes), seals & gaskt (japan made, thank goodness)

the new brgs might be a bit "smoother" than the old ones (tested clean & dry), but it's a tossup imho - i am still puzzled :facepalm:

cuz, in neutral, where i heard the growling, the only things turning are the C'shaft & the input shaft

took awhile to ID the trans - it's about a mid-'80 - some parts correspond to the earlier ID specs listed on other threads/sites and some correspond to later trans ID :ohno: - mid-year changeover issues

- i pulled it out of a ZX at pick-n-pull about 6 yrs ago but never wrote down the year or other ID info at the time - :eek: - the trans does have a number 7210886 stamped on the top of the bell, but nowhere does anyone mention that as an ID issue, and it has a white 19 tooth speedo gear & brass 5th

i'll now order the nuts & rest of the minor pieces from nissanpartszone


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